[CAUT] Upright tone openings

David Love davidlovepianos at comcast.net
Sat Feb 26 10:51:31 MST 2011


Solid, one piece music desks on grands do something similar in restricting the sound that comes at the player, though on a somewhat lesser  scale.
David Love
www.davidlovepianos.com
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From: "Delwin D Fandrich" <del at fandrichpiano.com>
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Subject: Re: [CAUT] Upright tone openings

I have asked this question of several manufacturers. Mostly I get a blank stare. Rather like, “Why on earth would anyone want to do that?” 

 

It doesn’t seem to fit into the Eurocentric modern aesthetic theme most builders strive for these days. 

 

On a similar note I’ve wondered why modern manufacturers work so hard to hermetically seal—it seems—their instruments. Panels are made of relatively thick MDF which is about as efficient a sound barrier as you can find without spending a whole lot of money. And then they work very hard to close every gap and every possible path where sound might actually leak out and hit the pianist. 

 

You’re right, opening the top lid just isn’t the same.

 

ddf

 

Delwin D Fandrich

Piano Design & Fabrication

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From: caut-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of Mckeever, James I
Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2011 8:36 AM
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Subject: Re: [CAUT] Upright tone openings

 

Dale, thanks for the excellent idea.  When I visited UW-Madison about 25 years ago, they were still maintaining a number of almost ceiling-high uprights.  Don’t remember what they were.

 

So why no tone openings?  So they are softer for practice?  If students putting objects through the openings is a problem, put a grill behind each opening.  Why build a very high-end upright then not allow the sound to get out?!  Lifting the top just isn’t enough!

 

Jim McKeever

 

From: caut-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of Dale Erwin
Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2011 9:42 AM
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Subject: Re: [CAUT] Upright tone openings

 

  Hi Jim
   I'm a big fan of 1890 to 1910 uprights.  The glory days of post Victorian uprights. So many had three piece panels with cut outs in the front backed with a nice linnen cloth. SO much sound could exit forward. I have a gorgeous Hardman upright given to me by Carl Meyer In San Jose be fore he died. He said I know you'll fix it someday. And some day I will.
 Why not find a nice chip and dale pattern and trace it on the Rippen bottom panel and top music desk area,.... Get a jig saw and go to town.
 

Dale S. Erwin
www.Erwinspiano.com
Jim

209-577-8397
209-985-0990

 

 

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From: Mckeever, James I <mckeever at uwp.edu>
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Subject: [CAUT] Upright tone openings

 

Why aren’t there “tone openings” in most uprights?  I recall a very old spinet which had cloth-covered openings at the sides of the music stand.  What about the lower panel?  Sound can get out of grands, but not uprights unless you raise the lid.  When I practice on my fine Rippen “Concerto” model, I often remove the bottom panel.  Of course, the tone is then fabulous.

 

Comments, please!

 

Jim McKeever


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