[CAUT] How much voicing on new NY hammers/ Re-visited

Dale Erwin erwinspiano at aol.com
Fri Jan 14 19:38:17 MST 2011


You know...it is possible to order the hammers unjuiced/ unadulterated.
 

 

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-----Original Message-----
From: Kent Swafford <kswafford at gmail.com>
To: caut at ptg.org
Sent: Fri, Jan 14, 2011 9:31 am
Subject: Re: [CAUT] How much voicing on new NY hammers/ Re-visited


It's funny. Before I came into check email, I was hanging sample genuine Steinway hammers on a D I have in the shop, and was very happy with the sound of those samples.


In the last few years, you know, there has been a transition in the Steinway factory to the current pre-lacquered hammers, and that transition may account for some of the variation we have seen, as they have adjusted things to suit their needs.


The last 2 sets seem to have been both similar to each other and pleasing to me. If they are gonna be like the last 2 sets for a while, then I'll be happy with Steinway hammers.


BTW, the last two or three sets of Steinway shanks & flanges I have gotten have been the best I've ever seen, from _any_ manufacturer.


Ask again in a few months.


Kent







On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 11:14 AM, Paul T Williams <pwilliams4 at unlnotes.unl.edu> wrote:

Hi Kent and all,

I quite discouraged with the set offactory hammers for one of our D's we discussed a couple months ago.  I'vehad to juice them several times all over.  I still don't like thetenor and killer octaves all the way up to C-7.  They're hung niceand straight, but for fun, I moved the action in and out a small amount(like2-4mm) to see if the killer area was going to need altering in thestrike point.  Not much happened, so they stay where they are.

Of course, they haven't had a lot ofplaying in yet.  I get so-so fff and the ppp is pretty good.  Idon't like much of anything inbetween except the middle 2 octaves and bass. It's just weak sounding. String mating is good and regulation isgreat, so it's either that these aren't a great set of hammers, or thesoundboard has some issues (this piano is from the 80's or early 90's) It was a C&A piano, so it's got a different serial number, butthat's what Richard West says, and since he was here, that's what it is...

I might consider trying some Hamburghammers sometime, but I'll really have to think long and hard about gettinganother NY set.

What about y'all?

Paul





From:
Kent Swafford <kswafford at gmail.com>

To:
caut at ptg.org

Date:
10/13/2010 05:27 PM

Subject:
Re: [CAUT] How much voicing on new NYhammers






I have found no consistent answer to your question. Thelast set of D hammers I put on needed to be juiced up a bit in the toptwo sections and was then ready to go; the set before that has been juicedtwice throughout and is not yet bright enough; the one before that wasOK in the tenor but needed to be juiced everywhere else.

Hanging these is like spinning the wheel of fortune. I'dbe interested in knowing where yours land.

Kent


On Oct 13, 2010, at 4:17 PM, Paul T Williams wrote:

Hi all 

Quick question;  how much voicing is typically needed on the new NYhammers for our D?  I have a very small window to put a set on ourD in the main hall.  They're pre-hung and I have them here in theshop.  The project starts tomorrow. 

Thanks 
Paul 





 
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