Perhaps I missed some of this. I have found time and time again that killer octave issues are strike line issues. They exsist on all Ds up until about 1985 -90. I think when ever Steinway purchased Kelly plates they were fixed In my experience, until the killer strike line issue is changed by hanging the hammers by ear....& .... it never gets better with voicing, needling, filing....vodoo etc. Just my two cents. I have fixed some otherwise stellar Ds by strike line mods. See this months journal. Dale S. Erwin www.Erwinspiano.com Custom restoration Ronsen Piano hammers Join the Weickert felt Revolution 209-577-8397 209-985-0990 -----Original Message----- From: Paul T Williams <pwilliams4 at unlnotes.unl.edu> To: caut at ptg.org Sent: Tue, Jan 18, 2011 2:11 pm Subject: Re: [CAUT] How much voicing on new NY hammers/ Re-visited/Update. Well, nothing much happened in the killeroctaves. Richard West came to visit/play/advise. He likes thewhole, but it is the killer area still weak. He suggested talkingto Steve Brady (my mentor from the beginning). He has a hammer "striping"thing that is supposed to work. I emailed him, but haven't heardback yet. Have y'all tried this? Overall, it's sounding very nice...perhapsbetter for a smaller venue, so I may switch it out with our smaller recitalroom with a D with new Wally Naturals on it, which I love! We'llsee.... P From: Paul T Williams <pwilliams4 at unlnotes.unl.edu> To: caut at ptg.org Date: 01/14/2011 03:16 PM Subject: Re: [CAUT] How much voicing on new NYhammers/ Re-visited/WNG glue add-on! Thank, Fred. This is my final attempt on Monday. I applied a little more actionhorizontally a couple hours ago. I noted a bit of improvement after2 hours, but I can't say/hear for a day or so. I'll come in Mondayand see what develops....This is the 5th time BTW. Much too mucheffort for how much they cost! I'll try the vertical applicationMonday if this doesn't work! I love the shanks and flanges though. Very nice! What glue does NY use? If nothing works, can I remove these hammersfor a new set,....hoping not to need this, but in case of the worst scenario.....????? On another note, You can't change anything on the WNG shanks with theirglue. It's permanent as far as I can tell. You can "burn"the shanks in to straighten them out, but can't remove old hammers to replacewith new. (This on another L I did last fall) Better make sure youhave exactly the correct strike point position when hanging or you're SOL!!!Only 30-45 seconds per hammer, too!! Wow, that's a fast set...I like aminute or two like with the TiteBond moulding glue or least fav, the titebond II. I've never been a fan of hide, but may try it someday.... I lucked out on the L. It plays and sounds wonderfully in aclassroom rarely reserved on weekends by students prior to, but now, theroom is more difficult to reserve. Good job to WNG, and me. Paul From: Fred Sturm <fssturm at unm.edu> To: caut at ptg.org Date: 01/14/2011 02:54 PM Subject: Re: [CAUT] How much voicing on new NYhammers/ Re-visited On Jan 14, 2011, at 1:50 PM, Paul T Williams wrote: I'm learning this a bit too late, but good advice. Soak the darnthings on first lacquering. I thought they were supposed to do thisin the factory. Not enough, I guess. Try applying lacquer to the sides of the hammers, by the core. Action onend. Swing each hammer out, apply at the tip of the core. Regards, Fred Sturm fssturm at unm.edu “Art is not a mirror held up to reality, but a hammer with whichto shape it.” Brecht -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://ptg.org/pipermail/caut.php/attachments/20110118/11418475/attachment.htm>
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