[CAUT] Steinway D

Serge Harel serge.harel at videotron.ca
Sat Jan 22 06:36:24 MST 2011


I do this groove and rod a lot the best for me are berillyum cooper rod.
It is hard, it lube and very low surface oxidation with time
a bit expensive and toxic I find a deal with 2,6mm dia and buy a lot.
I was born close to a berillyum mine...
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*berillyum cooper*
 Class 4 (HT) 17200  Rockwell C
38-44
Serge Harel



2011/1/22 Delwin D Fandrich <del at fandrichpiano.com>

> Yes. Cut a groove with a die grinder and an appropriate carbide cutter and
> set an appropriate rod in the groove. I have used unhardened steel drill rod
> and aluminum bronze, both 1/8” dia. The drill rod is harder, the aluminum
> bronze is a bit more lubricous. It takes a little finesse on the die grinder
> but it’s not rocket science. The rod should be epoxied in—I added iron
> powder to the epoxy to provide a stronger, more dense base for the rod.
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> I don’t like making the V-bar (actually more of a U-bar) harder than the
> wire but I like it pretty hard. I’m not a fan of extraneous string noises so
> I like to have a nice, clean termination that doesn’t easily get chewed up.
> I believe, but have made no attempt to prove, that the drill rod V-bar
> surface helps to create a slightly more efficient termination of the
> speaking length of the wire.
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> ddf
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> Delwin D Fandrich
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> Piano Design & Fabrication
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> 620 South Tower Avenue
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> Centralia, Washington 98531 USA
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> del at fandrichpiano.com
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> ddfandrich at gmail.com
> Phone  360.736.7563
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> *From:* caut-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces at ptg.org] *On Behalf Of *David
> Love
> *Sent:* Friday, January 21, 2011 5:12 PM
> *To:* caut at ptg.org
> *Subject:* Re: [CAUT] Steinway D
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> Have you done that?  If so, what specific material and dimension did you
> use and how did you anchor it to the underside of the strut?  How often do
> you think poor treble is in part due to inadequately hardened capo bars?  I
> know Overs addressed this some years ago on the list but I’ve encountered
> various Steinway pianos at different times where I was suspicious about the
> capo bar but don’t really have a reliable way to tell or test.
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> David Love
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> www.davidlovepianos.com
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> *From:* caut-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces at ptg.org] *On Behalf Of *Delwin
> D Fandrich
> *Sent:* Friday, January 21, 2011 2:23 PM
> *To:* caut at ptg.org
> *Subject:* Re: [CAUT] Steinway D
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> Ok. Add in opening up the V-bar and installing a harder string bearing
> surface and removing the tuned duplex counterbearing bars to increase the
> string termination angles and shorten up the duplex string length.
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> Del
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> Delwin D Fandrich
>
> Piano Design & Fabrication
>
> 620 South Tower Avenue
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> Centralia, Washington 98531 USA
>
> del at fandrichpiano.com
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> ddfandrich at gmail.com
> Phone  360.736.7563
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> *From:* caut-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces at ptg.org] *On Behalf Of *Mckeever,
> James I
> *Sent:* Friday, January 21, 2011 2:04 PM
> *To:* caut at ptg.org
> *Subject:* Re: [CAUT] Steinway D
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> Yes.  The treble is a disaster!  All kinds of metallic sounds.  Voice it
> down, and it doesn’t make enough sound.  A former tech said the termination
> under the frame of the treble is the problem, and the old equipment wasn’t
> making good, crisp frames at that time.  Attempts to correct it  failed.
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> Jim McKeever
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> *From:* caut-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces at ptg.org] *On Behalf Of *Richard
> Cromwell
> *Sent:* Friday, January 21, 2011 3:46 PM
> *To:* caut at ptg.org
> *Subject:* Re: [CAUT] Steinway D
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> Could you describe what characteristics of the piano doom it to being
> labeled a total lemon?
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> Richard Cromwell
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> Pianotek Supply
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> *From:* caut-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces at ptg.org] *On Behalf Of *Mckeever,
> James I
> *Sent:* Friday, January 21, 2011 4:40 PM
> *To:* caut at ptg.org
> *Subject:* [CAUT] Steinway D
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> We own a D, which was built in 1972, and is a total lemon.  I am thinking
> that I want to surplus it, because if it is rebuilt I can’t be sure it will
> be a good piano.  I would welcome any opinions on this!
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> Thanks,
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> Jim McKeever
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