[CAUT] Steinway D 25lb felt from NY - Watchdogs needed

[Serge Harel]

David

Yamaha do the same now with the new CFX very very thick top felt from
Wurzen
and the S&S D Hamburg is 22 pound before and I think they go for bigger now

If Steinway New York are 25 pounds now they have for sure more felt density
that before and this is good... ( less plastic juice)

But your right this not for every piano it is way too simplistic there is no
one side fit all in this choice of hammer

Serge Harel




2011/3/17 David Stanwood <stanwood at tiac.net>

> Dear All,
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> In my consulting work providing Precision TouchDesign Specifications to my
> agent group I receive a lot of hammer weight data on new hammers and have
> been receiving such data for almost two decades.  I have a pretty good
> handle on what's normal and expected from various manufacturers.
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> I just received a set of data for a set of new Steinway D hammers that is
> worth sharing publicly because it falls on the edge of what I would call
> normal.  The word I get is that Steinway NY has in their pipeline a new
> design for their Steinway D hammers using 25lb felt. The note from the
> factory that came with the hammers says:
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> "Please be aware that these new Model D hammers are being delivered with no
> lacquer solution or "juice" having been applied. Fabrication improvements
> have significantly reduced the amount of reinforcing solution that may be
> required. For this reason, please apply any solution sparingly if tone
> building is required. If you have any questions or concerns, please call
> parts department 1-800-366-1853"
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> I spoke with the Steinway NY parts Dept. yesterday and they confirmed that
> all D sets would be of this type from now on.  The Hammer/Strike Weight
> level on this one set are higher than just about anything I have ever seen
> in my experience.  They start out in the low high zone at note 1 increasing
> to top high at note 40 then top high or higher from notes 55 - 80 down to
> 1/2 high at 88.  This set of hammers has been tapered normally.  The graph
> may be viewed at:
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> http://www.stanwoodpiano.com/D25LBSW1.pdf
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> I have had experience with hammers of this weight level.  There is a
> Steinway D at Cincinnati Conservatory that I specified top high hammer
> weights for and the sound is indeed BIG.  It's a powerhouse piano for a big
> hall.  I've only specified a handful of others at TopHigh for special needs.
>  I'm posting here as a warning of sorts. Hammers of this weight level could
> create touch weight problems without special attention given to the Touch
> Design Setup.  Also tone issues.  Some sound boards can get overloaded with
> hammer weight levels above 1/2 High Zone.  The piano will tell you.
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> If any of you have received a set of these hammers and would like to share
> your hammer weight data I'd be happy to produce graphs and report back to
> the group.  Either ready to hang weights or strike weights would be fine.
>  88 samples please.  With more data we can get a truer picture of what is
> going on here.  Please send me your data! Either raw data or in an excel
> sheet:
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> Strike Weight and Hammer Weight excel sheets at:
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> http://www.stanwoodpiano.com/E-SmartChart3.xls
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> David Stanwood
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> "Just trying to help"
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