<html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" = xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" = xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" = xmlns:st1="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" = xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; = charset=us-ascii"> <meta name=ProgId content=Word.Document> <meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 10"> <meta name=Originator content="Microsoft Word 10"> <link rel=File-List href="cid:filelist.xml@01C55E50.786692F0"> <o:SmartTagType = namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="City"/> <o:SmartTagType = namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="PlaceType"/> <o:SmartTagType = namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="PlaceName"/> <o:SmartTagType = namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="place"/> <o:SmartTagType = namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="time"/> <o:SmartTagType = namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="date"/>  <style>  </style>  </head> <body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=blue = style='tab-interval:.5in' id="role_body" bottomMargin=7 leftmargin=7 topmargin=7 = rightMargin=7> <div class=Section1> “It also feels good on a = bald head after a difficult tuning.”<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> HA = !  Also works = well as a hand and key sanitizer in cold and flu season.  Vodka has approximately the same = alcohol water ratio as rubbing alcohol and can help DURING one of those = difficult tunings. J<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <div> Joseph D. Gotta RPT<o:p></o:p> </div> <o:p> </o:p> -----Original = Message----- From: = caut-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org] On = Behalf Of Ed Sutton Sent: = <st1:date Month="5" Day="21" Year="2005">Saturday, May 21, = 2005</st1:date> <st1:time Hour="21" Minute="2">9:02 PM</st1:time> To: College and = University Technicians Subject: Re: [CAUT] = Schimmel attacked by fabric softener <o:p> </o:p> <div> Jeff-<o:p></o:p> </div> <div>  <o:p></o:p= > </div> <div> For about 2 years I've been = finishing most tunings with a very = light spritz of rubbing alcohol with about 1/32 of fabric softener and a very = light pass over the hammers with a brass brush.  I emphasize -VERY LIGHT- = in both cases.  More recently I've stopped adding the fabric softener, = and can't hear any difference in the result.<o:p></o:p> </div> <div>  <o:p></o:p= > </div> <div> I have wondered if the fabric softener smell is better customer relations than = pure rubbing alcohol.  A few drops would do = that.<o:p></o:p> </div> <div>  <o:p></o:p= > </div> <div> Perhaps a pounding test would show the fabric softener voicing lasts = longer?<o:p></o:p> </div> <div>  <o:p></o:p= > </div> <div> The formulas using fabric softener always used rubbing alcohol as the = carrier. (A few years ago it was suggested to apply it very heavily to the = shoulders, like hammer hardener. It's a fast way to ruin hammers; don't do it unless you = are ready to replace the hammers if they come unglued from the = moulding.)<o:p></o:p> </div> <div>  <o:p></o:p= > </div> <div> My feeling at this time is that the water in the rubbing alcohol is the = effective agent.  The alcohol carries it a little deeper into the felt, and = the dilution makes sure that it is a very small amount of = water.<o:p></o:p> </div> <div>  <o:p></o:p= > </div> <div> It also feels good on a bald head after a difficult = tuning.<o:p></o:p> </div> <div>  <o:p></o:p= > </div> <div> Ed Sutton<o:p></o:p> </div> <div>  <o:p></o:p= > </div> <blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid black = 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt; margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'> <div> ----- Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p> </div> <div style='font-color:black'> From: <a href="mailto:jlolson@cal.net" title="jlolson@cal.net">Jeff Olson</a> = <o:p></o:p> </div> <div> To: <a href="mailto:caut@ptg.org" title="caut@ptg.org">College and = University Technicians</a><o:p></o:p> </div> <div> Sent: = <st1:date Month="5" Day="21" Year="2005">5/21/2005= </st1:date> <st1:time Hour="19" Minute="27">7:27:54 PM</st1:time> = <o:p></o:p> </div> <div> Subject: Re: [CAUT] Schimmel attacked by fabric softener<o:p></o:p> </div> <div> <o:p> </o:p= > </div> <div> The interesting question here to me is the effectiveness of fabric softener = as a voicing tool.  Is it possible that it could be effective, if used intelligently, minus all the steaming, burning, etc.?  What is the = active ingredient in fabric softener, anyway (I must confess I've never used = the stuff; I like my clothes rough and macho, fabricly = speaking;-).<o:p></o:p> </div> <div>  <o:p></o:p= > </div> <div> Jeffo<o:p></o:p>= </div> <blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid black = 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt; margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'= > <div> ----- Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p> </div> <div style='font-color:black'> From: <a href="mailto:HepplerA@aol.com" = title="HepplerA@aol.com">HepplerA@aol.com</a> = <o:p></o:p> </div> <div> To: <a href="mailto:caut@ptg.org" title="caut@ptg.org">caut@ptg.org</a> = <o:p></o:p> </div> <div> Sent: = <st1:date Month="5" Day="20" Year="2005">Friday, May = 20, 2005</st1:date> <st1:time Hour="7" Minute="43">7:43 AM</st1:time><o:p></o:p></spa= n> </div> <div> Subject: [CAUT] Schimmel attacked by fabric softener<o:p></o:p> </div> <div> <o:p> </o:p= > </div> <div> One quick question for you more experienced techs out = there. . . <o:p></o:p> <div>   &nbs= p; I have a 7' Schimmel on consignment in the store I work for that = needs some radical changes in the voicing.  To the request of the previous = owner, the bass and upper treble sections have been voiced down considerably.  Unfortunately, the tooner used fabric softener as well as excessive = steam, as I'm guessing from the shrinkage.  I have just spent a couple weeks = with Boesendorfer in one-on-one voicing training, so I'm comfortable with = most voicing jobs, but this is nasty.  The top 1/4" or so is as soft as gym = socks, it smells like Downy, and there's even a few scorch marks in the = bass.  Is there any point in trying to save this set of hammers, or should I save = myself the agony and just replace them?  O.K., now, control your grimaces. = :)<o:p></o:p> </div> <div>  <o:p></o:p= > </div> <div> Elizabeth Heppler, R.P.T.<o:p></o:p> </div> <div> <st1:place><st1:PlaceName>Montana</st1:PlaceName> = <st1:PlaceType>State</st1:PlaceType> = <st1:PlaceType>University</st1:PlaceType></st1:place> - <st1:City><st1:place>Bozeman</= font></st1:place></st1:City><o:p></o:p> </div> </div> </blockquote> </blockquote> </div> </body> </html>