<HTML>In a message dated 7/22/02 10:22:16 AM Central Daylight Time, lancelafargue@bellsouth.net writes: <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Hey Wim, Harbor Freight has a 2 ton shop crane for $249.00. Item #35915-5RTH.  It is free standing so you don't need a ceiling, etc.  It is probably cheap Taiwan, but with the relatively little use and light weight of plates, it should last.  Harbor Freight now has retail stores in larger cities, too.  1-800-423-2567.  I have a friend who uses one similar and it works for him.  His folds behind a door for storage.   </BLOCKQUOTE> Not only do I not want to spend the money, there is no place for me to store it. If I was going to use one, I would rent it. But thanks for the tip. Wim</HTML>