<HTML>In a message dated 3/28/03 10:52:46 AM Central Standar= d Time, ed440@mindspring.com writes: <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">You can lift the piano as long = as needed to remove the casters and position the truck arms, then gently lower it.  There will = be no problems with the truck flipping up, no need to shim under the ends of the<B= R> truck arms.</BLOCKQUOTE> Ed I don't know how you do it, but I have to put something under the first and = second arms to keep the whole truck from flipping up.  Can you explain = how you do it without the shims. Wim </HTML>