<html> New pins which I've mic'd are 20 or 21. I thought that was a little large. Jon Page At 11:23 PM 09/12/2000 -0400, you wrote: <blockquote type=cite cite>C'mon, folks! Parts you get from suppliers amount to kit materials. No manufacturer can possibly put together an action center and get the friction right for every possible environment. I've routinely repinned entired sets of shanks AND wippens(!). Routinely. IMO, there's no such thing as "perfect, straight out of the box." That's fairy-tale stuff. Come to think of it, I think I got the impression that the centerpin you see, in a fresh box of parts, is actually just a sizing pin. That it's *supposed* to be replaced. I think it was someone at Renner (Germany) who said something like that. (Measure the pin - it's probably a #19 or smaller.) If you don't care to do the repinning yourself, perhaps you could hire & train a student. Ron Torrella, RPT A440A@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 9/13/0 12:49:24 AM, cramer@BrandonU.CA writes: > > << FYI, the tightest flange of this set swings 10-11 times with replacement > > hammer #01, and 19-20 times with hammer #65! > > I have a performance piano to put back in service, any advice? >> > > Get another set of flanges,  these are too loose to use.  If not that,  then > repinning is the only other way I see.  I would like to know what supplier > this is.  If they are having trouble with their pinning, I don't want to use > them. > Regards, > Ed Foote RPT</blockquote></html>