<html> <body> Wim, In the few years that I've had my SAT III, I've used one of the preset tunings only one time. And didn't like it. So when I use the machine,  I ALWAYS use the FAC plus aural checks (usually). :-) <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite=""> One of the profs told me she thought the bass on her two B's was too low. (I use the preset tuning on my SATIII). Another prof played c3-f3-f4, and said it sounded muddy. (I had just tuned this piano three days earlier). </blockquote> Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think that probably had an awful lot to do with the tuning. It was more likely the voicing and/or the basic sound of the instrument. <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">The upshot was that the next day I spent 6 hours tuning and voicing the two B's. Although I used the SATIII to get me in the ball park, I turned the machine off and went back to basics, listening carefully with my ears. I tuned the recital hall the next day, and used my ears. I didn't even turn the machine on. </blockquote> Probably good practice. I need to do that every once in a while, also. <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite=""> Sometimes we need a kick in the rear to remind us that tuning is still an aural sport. I got lazy, and relied too much on my little box. </blockquote> True. Avery <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">Wim Willem Blees, RPT Piano Tuner/Technician School of Music University of Alabama Tuscaloosa, AL USA</blockquote></body> </html>