<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" = xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" = xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" = xmlns:st1="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" = xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; = charset=us-ascii"> <meta name=ProgId content=Word.Document> <meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 10"> <meta name=Originator content="Microsoft Word 10"> <link rel=File-List href="cid:filelist.xml@01C535ED.7D80C700"> <o:SmartTagType = namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="PlaceType"/> <o:SmartTagType = namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="country-region"/> <o:SmartTagType = namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="State"/> <o:SmartTagType = namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="City"/> <o:SmartTagType = namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="time"/> <o:SmartTagType = namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="date"/> <o:SmartTagType = namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="PlaceName"/> <o:SmartTagType = namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="place"/>  <style>  </style> <![if mso 9]> <style> p.MsoNormal {margin-left:3.0pt;} </style> <![endif]> </head> <body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=blue = style='tab-interval:.5in; margin-left:3.0pt;margin-top:3.0pt;margin-right:3.0pt;margin-bottom:.75pt= '> <div class=Section1>   I have installed two of these sets of Miracle-Wips, one in my own = piano and one for a customer. On my own B, they provided a better touch-weight = than the Renner wips (even with the springs disengaged), and I was able to = remove some lead and easily regulate the springs to achieve an extremely even = touch. Now for the bad news – over time, many of the centers have = experienced a sudden increase in friction. This seems to be particularly the case with = the jack springs, where I measured the friction at between 20 and 40 grams! = Another rebuilder I know had the same problem (and was sued over it). My shop = partner has also had similar problems with at least one set that he installed. Repinning seems to be a permanent cure for this malady. The other set = that I installed has not had any pinning issues so far (about 18 months), but = my piano just had two more jacks seize in the last couple of days (the first in = more than a year). I would say that I’ve repined about 25% of them so = far. <o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p>   The other problem is with friction in the repetition spring = slots. After a while, you’ll get a little “tick, tick” sound as the = spring slides in the slot. This seems to come with use, and has been a problem = on both of the sets that I installed. At Bob Maranelli’s suggestion, I = applied McLube to the slots, but the problem returned in both cases. I’ve since = tied protek, but too recently to predict the long term = success.<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p>   I also just repined a complete set of Tokiwa shanks that had = virtually seized. Touch-weight was well into the 80’s! My advice is to stay = away from these parts, unless they are going into a piano that is serviced constantly so you can keep an eye on them. <o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <![if !supportLists]>-        <![endif]>Mark Dierauf<o:p></o:p> <![if !supportLists]>-        <![endif]>St = <st1:place><st1:PlaceName>Pauls</st1:PlaceName> = <st1:PlaceName>School</st1:PlaceName></st1:place><o:p></o:p> <![if !supportLists]>-        <![endif]><st1:place><st1:City>Concord</st1:City>, = <st1:State>NH</st1:State></st1:place><o:p></o:p></span= > <o:p> </o:p> -----Original = Message----- From: Chris Solliday [mailto:solliday@ptd.net] Sent: = <st1:date Month="3" Day="30" Year="2005">Wednesday, March 30, = 2005</st1:date> <st1:time Hour="16" Minute="53">4:53 PM</st1:time> To: College and = University Technicians Subject: Re: [CAUT] Re: = Leads, Magnets, Springs, etc.<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <div> The other cost effective, = and easier to install, and MUCH easier to regulate option is the Miracle-Wip from Pianotek or Pacific. These are made by Tokiwa and have excellent centers, adjustable heel positions forward aand back in a slot, etiher angled or straight and once you have used an = adjustment screw for setting the weight you probably won't settle for anything = else. Chris Solliday  <o:p></o:p></= p> </div> <blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid black = 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt; margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'= > <div> ----- Original Message = ----- <o:p></o:p> </div> <div style='font-color:black'> From:</span= > <a href="mailto:RADKINS@coe.edu" title="RADKINS@coe.edu">Richard = Adkins</a> <o:p></o:p> </div> <div> To:<= /font> <a href="mailto:caut@ptg.org" title="caut@ptg.org">caut@ptg.org</a> = <o:p></o:p> </div> <div> Sent:</span= > <st1:date Month="3" Day="30" Year="2005">Wednesday, March 30, = 2005</st1:date> <st1:time Hour="14" Minute="24">2:24 PM</st1:time><o:p></o:p></p= > </div> <div> Subject:</s= pan> [CAUT] Re: Leads, Magnets, Springs, etc.<o:p></o:p> </div> <div> <o:p> </o:p></f= ont> </div> <div> I got this response from = the inventor of the magnetic system used by Fazioli and others. His new = invention<o:p></o:p> </div> <div> or application of magnets = to piano action is called "Magnetic Friction Reduction". This is = viewable at<o:p></o:p> </div> <div> the inventor's website as = peviously posted. The new information is about retrofitting an = action<o:p></o:p> </div> <div> to this = system.<o:p></o:p> </div> <div>  <o:p></o:p></f= ont> </div> <div> While the cost is less = than the previous system used in the Fazioli, it seems to me it would be less = costly if replacing whippens to go with the new Turbo-whippens w/assist springs, = rather than buy a set of new whippens, and this retrofit kit, and have to = retrofit each whippen AND hammer shank. I think as nice as it sounds, I'll have = to pass. Until someone manufactures replacement parts w/the magnets already = installed, at<o:p></o:p> </div> <div> a price comparable to a = set of turbo whippens, I don't think this is a cost effective way to go. = Maybe one<o:p></o:p> </div> <div> of you deep pockets guys = will give it a try and report back?<o:p></o:p> </div> <div>  <o:p></o:p></f= ont> </div> <div> Anyhow, here's the hot = poop on this hot and magnetic topic:<o:p></o:p> </div> <div> >>>>>>&gt= ;>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><o:p= ></o:p> </div> <div>  <o:p></o:p></f= ont> </div> <div> The MFR system is indeed = available as retrofit kit. The retrofit kit contains magnets, magnets already = glued on the adjustment screws, two magnet positioning tools and glue. An = mounting instruction manual is also available and will be send by e- mail. The = price is Euro 600,00, exclusive transportation costs. The estimated time needed = to install the system is about 1 or 2 working days. The kit can be ordered = by the firm Evert Snel: e-mail: info@evertsnel.nl I hope I have sufficiently = informed you, if not let me know. Best regards, Hans Velo <NOFILL>H.J. Velo Prins Bernhardlaan 68 3738 DR Maartensdijk The = <st1:country-region><st1:place>Netherlands</= st1:place></st1:country-region> tel.: ++31 (0)346 211820 fax.: ++31 (0)346 211820 = <o:p></o:p> </div> <div>  <o:p></o:p></f= ont> </div> <div> http:/home.hetnet.nl/~velo6= 8 <o:p></o:p> </div> <div>  <o:p></o:p></f= ont> </div> <div> This transmission contains = information belonging to H.J. Velo and may be confidential and/or legally = privileged. <o:p></o:p> </div> <div>  <o:p></o:p></f= ont> </div> <div> >>>>>>&gt= ;>>>>>>>>>>><o:p></o:p></p= > </div> <div>  <o:p></o:p></f= ont> </div> <div> FYI,<o:p></o:p></fon= t> </div> <div> Richard = Adkins<o:p></o:p> </div> <div> <st1:place><st1:PlaceName>Coe</st1:Plac= eName> = <st1:PlaceType>College</st1:= PlaceType></st1:place> = <o:p></o:p> </div> <div> <st1:place><st1:City>Cedar = Rapids</st1:City>, = <st1:State>IA</st1:State= ></st1:place><o:p></o:p></= p> </div> </blockquote> </div> </body> </html>