<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40" xmlns:v = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:st1 = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; = charset=us-ascii"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2802" name=GENERATOR><o:SmartTagType name="State" namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></o:SmartTagT= ype><o:SmartTagType name="City" namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></o:SmartTagT= ype><o:SmartTagType name="place" namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></o:SmartTagT= ype><o:SmartTagType name="PersonName" namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></o:SmartTagT= ype> <STYLE>  </STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY lang=EN-US vLink=blue link=blue> <DIV>I have used a Genk soft side for about seven years. How does this compare to that?</DIV> <DIV>thanks</DIV> <DIV>les bartlett</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left>-----Original Message----- From: = caut-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org]On Behalf Of Wigent, Donald E Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 9:05 AM To: = College and University Technicians Subject: RE: [CAUT] The Ideal Tool Case? </DIV> <DIV class=Section1> I just = purchesd the best tool case I have ever had. It is a soft side kit made or sold by = Duluth Trading CO.  The case is called the big house. It has 59 pockets = and something like 30 alastic loops to confine things, the flat sides zip = down to acces all the spaces and tools. The sholder strap is vary wide and = comfortable and fully adjustable.  I have ben carieing tool cases since I was = 13 years old and this is the best. I frankly injoy using this kit will = hold mor than you might want to put in it, throh in that extra bag of parts for = a special job.  You know how it goes. I walk from my home to the = school every day and most of the time I take the kit.  Thro in that = compact umbrella or lunch it will take it all. A joy to use.  Oh I forgot = to tell you the price $59.00<o:p></o:p> <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City = w:st="on">Duluth</st1:City></st1:place> trading = Company On the net at duluthtrading.com  Lots of good stuff and fun to read.<o:p></o:p> Don Wigent <o:p></o:p> Put some = fun in your life =          <o:p></o:p><= /FONT> <o:p> </o:p> <DIV> <DIV class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" = align=center> <HR tabIndex=-1 align=center width="100%" SIZE=2> </DIV> From: caut-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of Andrew = Anderson Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 = 9:19 AM To: = ilvey@sbcglobal.net; <st1:PersonName w:st="on">College and University Technicians</st1:PersonName> Subject: Re: [CAUT] The Ideal = Tool Case?<o:p></o:p></DIV> <o:p> </o:p> How many of us use a cart, like a mail cart = etc, to bring everything with us while servicing piano on = campus? Andrew Anderson At 07:50 PM 1/8/2006, you wrote: <o:p></o:p> Believe me...you WILL be = going for a lighter kit as the years go by.   When my knuckles started = dragging on the floor, I knew it was time... You mentioned you use an abbreviated kit for long walking distances...that seems like the time = for more fully loaded kit, rather than walk back to the car...? I would interested in a heavier kit only if it had wheels...I don't mind the = walk to the car...what 30 feet?   David Ilvedson, RPT <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City = w:st="on">Pacifica</st1:City>, <st1:State = w:st="on">California</st1:State></st1:place> <o:p></o:p></SP= AN> <DIV class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" = align=center> <HR align=center width="100%" SIZE=2> </DIV> Original message From: "Jeff Olson" = To: "<st1:PersonName w:st="on">College and University Technicians</st1:PersonName>" Received: 1/8/2006 4:48:02 = PM Subject: Re: [CAUT] The Ideal Tool Case? I don't mind a heavier case -- = mine weighs 33 lbs. "fully loaded" with tools -- for carrying the few yards = into a house (I get too impatient having to journey to the car two or three = more times for needed tools if I split up my tool collection along the = lines Wim does).   For university or apartment work, when I need to = walk a relatively long ways, I use an abbreviated tool bag that holds mostly = tuning wrenches, a couple screwdrivers, etc., that weighs only a few = pounds.  I mean, I'm macho, but not (completely) nuts.   I found your = tool case, Ron, rather appealing; never liked the roll-up types -- tools = tended to scatter/fall upon rolling out, and sometimes slither out upon rolling = up, in the ones I've tried.   J0<o:p></o:p> ----- Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p> From: <A href="mailto:englepiano@juno.com">Ronald E Engle</A> <o:p></o:p> To: <A href="mailto:caut@ptg.org">caut@ptg.org</A> = <o:p></o:p> Sent: Sunday, January 08, = 2006 4:12 PM<o:p></o:p> Subject: Re: [CAUT] The Ideal Tool Case?<o:p></o:p> My odyssey for the perfect = case continues also.  I liked the Genck case which I used for 10 or so = years.  After that wore out I bought one of the "close out" Genck's.  I = could not use it because it was clumsy and you have to fill it to make it work = and it became to heavy for me.  <o:p></o:p>  <o:p></o:p> I agree with Wim's philosophy = and I would add an element of my own.  Simplify, Simplify, Simplify.  = Why carry around tools you seldom use?  However I have not reached the = tuning hammer and mutes only, approach yet. Presently I am using a laptop = computer carrying case I had laying around which happens to be identical to = ones for sale at Office Max or any office supply store.  The pouches, = slots, flapped side pocket, movable divider all just happen to work out = perfectly for me.  The Modification I did make is to borrow a pallet from the = new Genck which has velcro hooks on the bottom edge.  It lays right in the = case where the computer use to and is permanently positioned so the top = edge of the pallet lays on the top edge of the case, so it is slanted for easy = removal of tools, it is hinged at the bottom because of the velco and items can = be kept underneath. The movable divider is beside the pallet giving space for = a few small tools that are placed in there loose.  At the space at the = bottom of the pallet I place my tuning hammer and a few necessities that are = used at every tuning.  This kit is light, everything is easily = accessible, the large flapped side space (usually empty) is used for temporary tools = or supplies I know I might need for the job, sometimes umbrella, hat, ETD = if you use one. It is soft so I don't worry about laying it on furniture and = worse yet banging it against furniture ( I am clumsy).  It has a = removable shoulder strap which can be doubled to hold the case lid in upright position.<o:p></o:p>  <o:p></o:p> Everyone has to work out = what's best for them.  I am very happy with this arrangement.<o:p></o:p>  <o:p></o:p> Ron = Engle<o:p></o:p>  <o:p></o:p>  <o:p></o:p> On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 14:40:39 = EST <A href="mailto:Wimblees@aol.com">Wimblees@aol.com</A> writes:<o:p></o:p> Jeff<o:p></o:p>  <o:p></o:p> I use a tool roll, as sold by = the piano supply stores, to hold my basic tuning and regulating tools, pliers, = etc. I have another small bag for my voicing tools. These is carry in one of = the briefcases sold at the home office, which has the PTG logo on it. The briefcase is leather, and can be carried by a shoulder strap. It has = room for lots of extra goodies, including paper work, glue, etc. I like the = shoulder strap, as it takes the weight off my arms and hands. <o:p></o:p>  <o:p></o:p> As was mentioned, there is no = such a thing as a perfect case. What you want is something that will hold the = basic things you need most of the time that will get you thought a basic = tuning, voicing, and regulation.  The rest you should keep in a variety = of carrying cases and tool boxes in your car. = <o:p></o:p>  <o:p></o:p> Wim = <o:p></o:p>  <o:p></o:p></DIV> </BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></= HTML>