<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; = charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content='"MSHTML 4.72.2106.6"' name=GENERATOR> </HEAD> <BODY> <DIV>Thanks Tim,</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>you actually sent me scurrying back to the PTG reprint CD. The tally is now = up to 6 methods, as Jack's article mentions 5, plus your mention of pin-block plugging.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>For the record; the first method Jack mentions and in no way recommends, is = by drilling by hand. Okay, so we're back to 5.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The other is a factory method using an articulated arm, which the device at = the Banff Centre for the Arts is patterned after. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I'm glad you mentioned plugging Tim, I've certainly heard of it and can't = see any reason why that wouldn't work just fine.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>BTW, my (current) favourite method is drilling "out of the piano."</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>best regards,</DIV> <DIV>Mark Cramer,</DIV> <DIV>Brandon University     </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> -----Original Message----- From: owner-caut@ptg.org [<A href="mailto:owner-caut@ptg.org">mailto:owner-caut@ptg.org</A>]On = Behalf Of Tim Coates Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 8:11 = AM To: <A href="mailto:caut@ptg.org">caut@ptg.org</A> Subject: Re: Pinblocks </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE>Mark, It has bothered me what that 4th method of doing pinblocks = is.  I finally remembered having to use the plugging method.  Web = Phillips sells half inch diameter plugs that are glued into the old block. I had one block (Emerson grand) that wouldn't come out.  = Don't ask to describe.  It can only be described with pictures.  But = the answer was to drill out all the pin holes with a half inch bullet = bit and plug.  Then I redrilled with the plate in (makes sense since = the pinblock wouldn't come out <g>).  Took about as long as a = regular pinblock install. Tim Coates Wapin Co., LLP Mark Cramer wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE = CITE> Ray,There are (I = believe) 4 methods of boring pinblocks, as described by Jack Krefting in = the PTG reprint kit titled "Pinblocks." This is great = reading!If you wish, = I can forward you a report on 3 of the 4 methods I've used (in the piano, in = the plate and on the bench) and you can draw your own conclusions. (Darned = if I can't remember what the 4th one = is!?)Just e-mail = me direct: <A = href="mailto:Cramer@BrandonU.CA">mailto:Cramer@BrandonU.CA</A></= FONT>Mark <BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader>-----Original Message----- From: <A href="mailto:owner-caut@ptg.org">owner-caut@ptg.org</A> = [<A = href="mailto:owner-caut@ptg.org">mailto:owner-caut@ptg.org</A>]On Behalf Of Breakall, Raymond Sent: = Monday, March 04, 2002 3:12 PM To: <A = href="mailto:'caut@ptg.org'">'caut@ptg.org'</A> Subject: RE: Pinblocks </DIV>  <BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir = ltr>-----Original Message----- From: <A href="mailto:Wimblees@aol.com">Wimblees@aol.com</A> = [<A = href="mailto:Wimblees@aol.com">mailto:Wimblees@aol.com</A>]</FON= T> Sent: = Monday, March 04, 2002 2:57 PM To: <A = href="mailto:caut@ptg.org">caut@ptg.org</A> Subject: = Re: Pinblocks </DIV>In a message dated 3/4/02 12:12:44 PM Central = Standard Time, rbreakal@richmond.edu writes: =     <BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff solid 2px; MARGIN-LEFT: = 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px" TYPE = CITE>Dear list, Anyone have a = good way to drill pinblocks while in the piano? I have = a couple of = Steinways where the pinblock is in good shape but needs oversize pins. I have heard about table drill = configurations where the drill can be mounted over the = pinblock area on a sliding rail. Any ideas?   =   Ray = Breakall Piano Technician University of Richmond</BLOCKQUOTE>  Ray I don't know if = actually "drilling" the pin block is what you want to = do. You are probably going to use 3/0 or even 4/0 pins. There is = no need make the holes any larger than they are. What you might = want to do, however, is clean the holes. I would suggest you get = a .22 caliber rifle bore cleaner. Just chuck it in a hand held = drill and clean out the holes, at a slow speed. Wim = Blees U of = Alabama [Breakall, Raymond] Wim,Thanks for the reply. = You are right about oversize pins. I was really thinking about = drilling a new pinblock.  Any ideas. Ray</BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></= BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>