<html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:st1="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <meta http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> <meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 11 (filtered medium)">  <title>Message</title> <o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="State"/> <o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="City"/> <o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="place"/> <o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="PersonName"/>  <style>  </style>  </head> <body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=blue id="role_body" bottomMargin=7 leftmargin=7 topmargin=7 rightMargin=7> <div class=Section1> Paul,<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> They have these new “windproof” lighters which always seem to burn the wood. (Don’t buy these) I’ve pulled the spring out of the tip, and that seems to make them less like blow torches, but then sometimes they won’t work at all. The “refillable” lighters don’t seem to work as well/long as the $1.00 throwaway kind, although the cheap ones are sometimes just that. Lastly, the “safety” trigger that some have are really annoying. Find lighters w/o that dumb thing. (Some of our student helpers can’t seem to figure out how to work them… I use this as an IQ test to see who we’ll work with <G>)<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> I hope this will save you time “experimenting”. <o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> Jim Busby BYU<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> Oh, and always carry a spare. (or 2)<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <div> <div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'> <hr size=2 width="100%" align=center tabindex=-1> </div> From: caut-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of Paul Williams RPT Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 1:39 AM To: <st1:PersonName w:st="on">ilvey@sbcglobal.net</st1:PersonName>; <st1:PersonName w:st="on">College and University Technicians</st1:PersonName> Subject: Re: [CAUT] hammer burning experiment<o:p></o:p> </div> <o:p> </o:p> <div> what a great idea.  I never thought of a long fire lighter.  I have just used the bic of equal and then cleaned it up if marked with some steel wool or sand paper.  Thanks for the tip.  Paul T. Williams RPT <a href="mailto:pno2nr@whidbey.com">pno2nr@whidbey.com</a> <o:p></o:p> </div> <blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt; margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'> <div> ----- Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p> </div> <div style='font-color:black'> From: <a href="mailto:ilvey@sbcglobal.net" title="ilvey@sbcglobal.net">David Ilvedson</a> <o:p></o:p> </div> <div> To: <a href="mailto:caut@ptg.org" title="caut@ptg.org">caut@ptg.org</a> <o:p></o:p> </div> <div> Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 8:38 PM<o:p></o:p> </div> <div> Subject: Re: [CAUT] hammer burning experiment<o:p></o:p> </div> <div> <o:p> </o:p> </div> That's what I use and how I use it...I have no problems with blacken shanks...it doesn't take much... David Ilvedson, RPT <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Pacifica</st1:City>, <st1:State w:st="on">California</st1:State></st1:place> <o:p></o:p> <div style='border:none;border-left:solid black 2.25pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'> <div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'> <hr size=2 width="100%" align=center> </div> Original message From: "Don Mannino" <DMANNINO@KAWAIUS.COM>To: "<st1:PersonName w:st="on">College and University Technicians</st1:PersonName>" <CAUT@PTG.ORG>Received: 3/31/2006 10:22:25 AM Subject: Re: [CAUT] hammer burning experiment<o:p></o:p> Wim,<o:p></o:p> <div>  <o:p></o:p> </div> <div> I use one of those long barbeque lighters, and wave it back and forth the length of the shank.  It spreads out the twisting action over a longer area.<o:p></o:p> </div> <div>  <o:p></o:p> </div> <div> Don Mannino<o:p></o:p> </div> <blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid navy 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt; margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'> -----Original Message----- From: caut-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Wimblees@aol.com</st1:PersonName> Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 8:11 AM To: caut@ptg.org Subject: [CAUT] hammer burning experiment<o:p></o:p> <div> Someone asked if I could do an experiment of my burning technique to see if the hammer was moving or the shank. I've got a box full of old Steinway S hammers glued to shanks, (They are not genuine Steinway parts), on which I did the experiment. I scribed a line across the shank and the hammer, and using my Weller heat gun, heated the hammer, and bent it off center, the way I normally burn a hammer. Guess what. The hammer did not move. The shank turned. So all this time I thought I was loosening the glue joint, when I was in fact, I bening the wood.<o:p></o:p> </div> <div>  <o:p></o:p> </div> <div> As I said, I heat the shank at the hammer. The question I have is, where do you guys heat the shank? How far from the hammer?<o:p></o:p> </div> <div>  <o:p></o:p> </div> <div> Wim  <o:p></o:p> </div> </blockquote> </div> </blockquote> </div> </body> </html>