<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; "><BR><DIV><DIV>On May 19, 2006, at 9:30 AM, Fred Sturm wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">BTW, I have been installing undercovers now with hooks and grommets.<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></FONT></P> </BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR><DIV>Hey, Fred,</DIV><DIV>Thanks for the info on the data loggers. I'll check it out. I'd been thinking about hooks and grommets. What kind of hooks are you using? And how have your duct tape "grommets" held up over time?</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>I've also thought about snaps -- like on your (non-button-fly) jeans or a denim jacket. They would install pretty much the same way as grommets and hooks. They've been used for vertical lid snaps in the past also. I know they buzz when they are not engaged, but they shouldn't when engaged. I just haven't had the chance to go to a decent sewing store to find any.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Jeff</DIV></BODY></HTML>