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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Bookman Old Style'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Arial Unicode MS'">Hi
Dave,</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial Unicode MS'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Bookman Old Style'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Arial Unicode MS'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Bookman Old Style'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Arial Unicode MS'">you
raise a good point, I'm no authority, but will share what I think I know about
overlapping thresholds, then hope someone in the know will set us both straight.
</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial Unicode MS'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Bookman Old Style'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Arial Unicode MS'; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Bookman Old Style'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Arial Unicode MS'">1.)
This may be a stretch, but I've been told a proven method to regulate the
temperature of blood resource in a blood bank, is to cycle slightly warmer and
cooler air through the storage unit, overlapping in the critical
temperature range.</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial Unicode MS'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Bookman Old Style'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Arial Unicode MS'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoBodyText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT size=2><FONT
face="Bookman Old Style">Why they can't simply dial in a thermostat at the
temperature they want, and a get stable temperature... I don't know, I'm not an
engineer. <SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial Unicode MS'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Bookman Old Style'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Arial Unicode MS'; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Bookman Old Style'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Arial Unicode MS'">2.)
Closer to home; over winter, I finally completed the heating/cooling system
(ductwork, furnace, etc.) at our cottage. Tom K., our mechanical plant
supervisor suggested the most efficient operation (we heat it all winter) is
having the furnace-fan run at low-speed continually, with the furnace actively
cycling in warm air in as required, rather have everything shut off
until it gets cold, then try heat it all up again. <SPAN
class=130431019-09062006>Make's sense, and it works!</SPAN></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Bookman Old Style'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Arial Unicode MS'; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Bookman Old Style'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Arial Unicode MS'">Granted
Dave, neither of us are enthalpy control experts (I sure ain’t), but I
hope we realize piano climate systems don't "force" humidity in or out,
that should be fairly obvious. You might find a conversation I had with Bill
Spurlock about water-damaged pianos helpful: </SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial Unicode MS'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Bookman Old Style'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Arial Unicode MS'; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Bookman Old Style'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Arial Unicode MS'">Bill
explained that warming and circulating air adjacent to moist wood creates a
gradient, or in simple terms makes the air a more inviting destination for the
moisture, than the wood is. This gradient invites the moisture to change
directions, and move towards the more welcoming environment.</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial Unicode MS'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Bookman Old Style'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Arial Unicode MS'; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Bookman Old Style'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Arial Unicode MS'">Likewise,
to restore equilibrium moisture content to wood, simply provide
moist air in the vicinity... no “forcing” required. If the wood is dry
it will accept moisture, if it isn't, it won't.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>By the way the most satisfying
explanation I’ve ever encountered on this subject was the class Roger Wheelock
gave at the Dallas Convention. Roger of course is a scientist, and Bill I
believe, has an engineering background. Isn’t it nice the PTG has such good
resources, so we don’t have to “guess” about this stuff?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Bookman Old Style'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Arial Unicode MS'; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Bookman Old Style'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Arial Unicode MS'">As
for tempering the climate around pianos, I think all we’re really trying to do
Dave, is maintain the equilibrium moisture content in the wood (soundboard), to
keep the piano </SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Bookman Old Style'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Arial Unicode MS'; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt">at
pitch and prevent damage. And it seems we can do this quite successfully,
using the products you mention<SPAN class=130431019-09062006>,</SPAN> to
maintain a compatible range of relative humidity in the
air.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Bookman Old Style'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Arial Unicode MS'; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Bookman Old Style'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Arial Unicode MS'"><SPAN
class=130431019-09062006>An</SPAN> “Inconvenient Truth” as you and I both know,
is if relative humidity isn’t stable, the moisture content of the wood will
not be stable (“Nature’s Law,” not ours), and if the wood isn’t stable, neither
is the tuning, no matter the manufacturer, the day of the week, where you live,
who tuned it, or which foot they stood on.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Bookman Old Style'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Arial Unicode MS'; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Bookman Old Style'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Arial Unicode MS'">(I
used to think piano owners/sales persons were the biggest perpetrators
of <SPAN class=130431019-09062006>"</SPAN>piano-tuning myths,” but you
might be surprised at the fanciful notions some of “us” have cultivated… myself
included!<SPAN class=130431019-09062006>?</SPAN> Yipes! ;>)
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Bookman Old Style'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Arial Unicode MS'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Bookman Old Style'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Arial Unicode MS'">Anyhow,
people who understand wood, know “the rules,” and hopefully we do too, since
pianos are made of wood. For what we don’t know, it’s fortunate <SPAN
class=130431019-09062006>to</SPAN> have a wealth of knowledge and experience in
the technology and manufacturing fields <SPAN class=130431019-09062006>we
can</SPAN> rely on. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Bookman Old Style'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Arial Unicode MS'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Bookman Old Style'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Arial Unicode MS'">best
regards,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Bookman Old Style'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Arial Unicode MS'">Mark
Cramer,</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial Unicode MS'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Bookman Old Style'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Arial Unicode MS'">Brandon
University</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial Unicode MS'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Bookman Old Style'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Arial Unicode MS'"> </SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial Unicode MS'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Bookman Old Style'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Arial Unicode MS'">PS
Regarding things that “do” work:</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial Unicode MS'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Bookman Old Style'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Arial Unicode MS'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Bookman Old Style'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Arial Unicode MS'">Last year
ago I sent a post about fitting a soundboard cover to a KG-3c, in a church
that had 30-cent seasonal pitch swings, despite having a Dampp-Chaser
with one 50w and two 25w dehumidifiers. </SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial Unicode MS'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Bookman Old Style'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Arial Unicode MS'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Bookman Old Style'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Arial Unicode MS'">I
tuned the same piano this morning, and was pleased to find the tenor just 6
cents sharp, and the rest of the piano right on the
button! </SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial Unicode MS'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial Unicode MS'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial Unicode MS'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial Unicode MS'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial Unicode MS'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"> </SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial Unicode MS'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Bookman Old Style'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Arial Unicode MS'">
</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial Unicode MS'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Bookman Old Style'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Arial Unicode MS'"> </SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Bookman Old Style'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Bookman Old Style'">That’s the one thing
(or one of the things) that I don’t get about these systems. I’m fortunate
that our climate here is sufficiently benign that we don’t have any systems
installed. As the system is currently designed, it forces humidity into
the piano – even when the ambient humidity is high – and then forces it
out. To me it would make more sense to have the humidifier come on at say
35% and the dehumidifier to come on at 50% (45%??) but in between those it would
leave the poor piano alone! Or in the summer if your humidity is high,
just disconnect the humidifier and the opposite in the winter. What good
is it to continually humidify then dehumidify the piano probably several times a
day?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Bookman Old Style'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Bookman Old Style'">dave<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica"><BR></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Bookman Old Style'">David M.
Porritt</SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Bookman Old Style'"><A
href="mailto:dporritt@smu.edu">dporritt@smu.edu</A></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> caut-bounces@ptg.org
[mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Porritt,
David<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, June 08, 2006 10:19 AM<BR><B>To:</B> College
and University Technicians<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CAUT] Topping up the
tank<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Jeff Tanner wrote:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> … and even in these high humidity summers the
tanks need filling more often than every two weeks -- more like a week to 10
days.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Helvetica size=1><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica">That’s the one thing (or one of
the things) that I don’t get about these systems. I’m fortunate that our
climate here is sufficiently benign that we don’t have any systems
installed. As the system is currently designed, it forces humidity into
the piano – even when the ambient humidity is high – and then forces it
out. To me it would make more sense to have the humidifier come on at
say 35% and the dehumidifier to come on at 50% (45%??) but in between those it
would leave the poor piano alone! Or in the summer if your humidity is
high, just disconnect the humidifier and the opposite in the winter.
What good is it to continually humidify then dehumidify the piano probably
several times a day?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">dave<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Helvetica color=black size=1><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica"><BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"></SPAN>David M.
Porritt</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><A
href="mailto:dporritt@smu.edu">dporritt@smu.edu</A></SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>