<html> <body> Good point, Alan. We'll be getting some 116s and 121s so I'll have a chance to see for myself. As I mentioned in my original post, the P-22, though the same height, weighs considerably more than the 116, so maybe the case construction has something to do with that. Aaron At 12:32 PM 8/21/2006, you wrote: <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">Aaron, More than anything else the thing about the 116 and 121 that gives me pause in an institutional environment is the case construction. I believe the P22 furniture will take a lot more abuse than the 116 or 121.  I don't know exactly what is under the veneer of the P22. In the features sheet for the 121 it says "resin sheet foundation" but it says nothing about the P22. I suspect that it is also dense particle board. But IMO the way the case is designed and put together is of higher quality and will last longer, to say nothing about being more user-friendly to us. Alan -- Alan McCoy, RPT Eastern Washington University amccoy@mail.ewu.edu 509-359-4627 > From: Aaron Bousel <abousel@comcast.net> > Reply-To: "College and University Technicians <caut@ptg.org>" <caut@ptg.org> > Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 19:14:48 -0400 > To: "College and University Technicians <caut@ptg.org>" <caut@ptg.org> > Subject: Re: [CAUT] comparisons > > Typically we (UMass Amherst) get 3 small grands, one U1 and 10 P22. > I'd agree with everything said about the P22. I've just been told > that the dealer is pushing some T116 and T121 in place of the some of > the P22. I'm trying to sort out the differences between these models > and also to give advice as to whether we should be making a fuss > about getting these in place of the P22. (We get 14 pianos and are > required to buy one, so far it's always been a P22 because of budget > restraints.) > > I've gone to the Yamaha website and here's what I've come up with so far: > > The T116 looks roughly equivalent to the P22 except that it has a > polyester finish, weighs 71 pounds less and is 3" narrower back to > front. Because of the weight difference I'm guessing this means less, > or no, back structure. Both are made in USA. > > The T121 weighs 49 pounds less than the P22 but is 3" taller. Also > has heavier hammers (22lb vs. 14 lb) than the T116 and P22. > > The U1 (just for comparison since that's one we're all familiar with) > weighs 24 pounds more than the T121, but is also 25 pounds lighter > than the P22. > > Interestingly neither the T121 nor the U1 say where they are made, > though we know the U1 is made in Japan. > > Another interesting fact: They all have the same length (44.5") > listed for the first bass string. > > I've never seen the T116 or T121 so I'm wondering if anyone has any > experience with these. On paper it looks as though the T121 might be > a step up from the P22. I guess I could drive the 40 minutes to go to > the dealer and check them out, but I'm on contract and that would be > on my nickel, plus I've got a mess of pianos to tune before the > beginning of September. > > If you've seen or worked on either the T116 or T121 I'd love to know > how you found them in comparison to the P22 > > Thanks in advance for the feedback. > > Aaron > > > > ------------------------------------------ > Aaron Bousel > Registered Piano Technician, Piano Technicians Guild > abousel@comcast.net > (413) 253-3846 (voice & fax) </blockquote> <x-sigsep></x-sigsep> ------------------------------------------ Aaron Bousel abousel@comcast.net (413) 253-3544 (voice) (413) 253-3846 (voice & fax)</body> </html>