<html> <body> At 03:32 PM 11/7/2006, Barbara wrote: <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">Eventually I again hauled out the steam set up.  Maybe they came out because they had had a "pre-soak." </blockquote> I think that the pre-soak works very well. I've come to the same result from a different direction. I pre-soak, sometimes twice, take out what will come out, and if they are really stubborn THEN I reach for a damp cloth and an iron to steam them out. I don't like cooking wood unless I have to. If there are pulley keys, I'll steam, knowing that it'll shrink the oversized holes - but if the balance rail holes are snug, I'll try to avoid steaming, so I don't have to resize them all later. Susan </body> </html>