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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Personally, I’d thoroughly clean all
the Vaseline off the glides and use several coats of MacLube burnished with a
soft cloth. Vaseline will be a dust magnet and will sing loudly at some point. Lightly
sand/clean any wood too. Just my 2 bits.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> caut-bounces@ptg.org
[mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Leslie
Fitzpatrick<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, November 22, 2006
10:20 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">College
and University Technicians</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [CAUT] squeak</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Well, I went back and since there already
was graphite in the keybed I took patrolium jelly commonly known as vaseline
and put it liberally on the glides and it totaly stopped the squeak. I'll let
you know if it starts again.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> caut-bounces@ptg.org
[mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org]<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Mark
Ultsch<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, November 21, 2006
11:43 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">College
and University Technicians</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [CAUT] squeak</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>I had a similar situation with an Estonia L190 -- I
think it is 6'-4" or 6'-8"-- serial no. 6347. I think it was
manufacturered 3 years ago. All the aforementioned diagnostics/fixes were
tried. The problem was isolated to be above the lyre and
trapwork.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>I also cleaned (even used a bit of naptha and Flitz)
and polished the action shift spring and lubed it and the key frame with
teflon. It helped a lot, but the problem was still vaguely there, and
grew back in just a couple of weeks.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Another tech (three of us spent hours each going over this
piano) removed the action shift spring and gingerly (stomped on it) reduced
it's spring rate. That again helped temporarily but the problem
returned. Eventually, the owner was given a good deal
on a new <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:country-region w:st="on">Estonia</st1:country-region></st1:place>
by the dealer.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>I know this history isn't helping you solve the problem, but
I'm wondering if the problem (in my case) is more complex than simply one
problem. Could bad lubricant have gotten burnished into the key frame wood
to cause the spring to squeek? In my case, the squeek became worse
after continued use of the pedal.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Do you have indentations on the treble side of the
keyframe made from a "heavy" action shift spring?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Could it be that a glide bold is loose and is shifting in
the key frame?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>I'd really like to know what you discover on this one, Les.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:ilvey@sbcglobal.net" title="ilvey@sbcglobal.net">David Ilvedson</a>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Tuesday, November
21, 2006 7:54 PM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Re: [CAUT] squeak<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Also the
cheekblocks/keyframe pins can squeek...protek...prolube? <br>
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David Ilvedson, RPT<br>
<st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Pacifica</st1:City>, <st1:State w:st="on">CA</st1:State>
<st1:PostalCode w:st="on">94044</st1:PostalCode></st1:place><br>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Original message<br>
From: "Leslie Fitzpatrick" <br>
<LESFITZ@COX.NET>To: "Ptg List" <br>
<CAUT@PTG.ORG>Received: 11/21/2006 10:17:59 AM<br>
Subject: [CAUT] squeak<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Hello, I hav a estonia grand probably a 6 foot it has a
squeak when you depress the soft pedal I graphited the key bed and it totally
stopped. But a day later it is back worse than ever. I also adjusted the glides
that were not adjusted properly I sure need help with this one. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><http://www.fitzsupershop.com<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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