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<DIV><SPAN class=562494215-02022007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Jeff,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=562494215-02022007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I'm
sorry you were unable to participate. For future reference, previous year's
figures or best guess would have been fine for the purposes of the
survey.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=562494215-02022007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Dale</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
caut-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Jeff
Tanner<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, February 01, 2007 12:06 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
College and University Technicians<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CAUT] bid
savvy<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><BR>
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<DIV>On Feb 1, 2007, at 11:49 AM, Willem Blees wrote:</DIV><BR
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<P style="MARGIN: 0px"><FONT style="FONT: 12px Helvetica" face=Helvetica
size=3>I think the first step in this process is related to Lance's
last<SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0px"><FONT style="FONT: 12px Helvetica" face=Helvetica
size=3>statement. "The whole system just doesn't seem to be
conducive</FONT></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0px"><FONT style="FONT: 12px Helvetica" face=Helvetica
size=3>to getting good quality work, just the cheapest price."<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0px"><FONT style="FONT: 12px Helvetica" face=Helvetica
size=3>Until universities recognize that in order to get quality work,
it<SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0px"><FONT style="FONT: 12px Helvetica" face=Helvetica
size=3>will be necessary to pay a technician a wage comparable to what
they<SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0px"><FONT style="FONT: 12px Helvetica" face=Helvetica
size=3>make in the private sector.<SPAN
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<P style="MIN-HEIGHT: 14px; MARGIN: 0px; FONT: 12px Helvetica"><BR></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0px"><FONT style="FONT: 12px Helvetica" face=Helvetica
size=3>Fred, one of the things CAUT can do is ask PTG to do an in depth<SPAN
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<P style="MARGIN: 0px"><FONT style="FONT: 12px Helvetica" face=Helvetica
size=3>survey of the income of piano tuners. Qualifications not
withstanding,<SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0px"><FONT style="FONT: 12px Helvetica" face=Helvetica
size=3>until the PTG can show how much the top money makers in our field
are<SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0px"><FONT style="FONT: 12px Helvetica" face=Helvetica
size=3>making, universities will have no bench mark from which to start.
They<SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0px"><FONT style="FONT: 12px Helvetica" face=Helvetica
size=3>will continue to offer inadequate salaries, and then wonder how
come<SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0px"><FONT style="FONT: 12px Helvetica" face=Helvetica
size=3>noone who is qualified to do the work will apply for the job. <SPAN
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<DIV>I think the question is more related to the contract bid process, which
is a bit of a horse of a different color. With the employee interview
process, you can have more flexibility. With the bid process, you may be
having unknowledgeable people making decisions based on numbers on a sheet of
paper.</DIV>
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<DIV>Have we not gotten the results on last year's survey? I have to
admit, I wasn't able to participate in it. By the time I got my W2 and
had a chance to calculate my income and expenses for the year, the company
conducting the survey closed it out.</DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Qualifications not withstanding,
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">until the PTG can show how much the top money
makers in our field are </DIV>
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<DIV>I think this is exactly the rock and a hard place we are in. The
top money makers may not necessarily be RPTs or even members. But they
wouldn't be top money makers without at least an above average
reputation. Being an RPT is great and all that, but I think making money
is why most people go into this business. And reputation will make you a
lot more money in this business than three capital letters after your
name. That's what makes it so difficult to word qualifications.</DIV>
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<DIV>Jeff</DIV>
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<DIV>Jeff Tanner, RPT</DIV>
<DIV>University of South Carolina</DIV>
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