<HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-15"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.6000.16414" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY style="MARGIN: 4px 4px 1px; FONT: 10pt Tahoma"> <DIV>Thanks, it is hard to tell from the pictures. I guess the "agraffe" I think I see on the bass bridge</DIV> <DIV>is merely part of the exposed front notch. I find it hard to believe this guy did all this by</DIV> <DIV>himself, not being a trained piano craftsman.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>If someone has acutally heard it, I'd be interested to know what they'd say it sounds like.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Thanks for all the replies...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Richard >>> <caut-request@ptg.org> 3/3/2007 1:00 PM >>> Send caut mailing list submissions to caut@ptg.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit <A href="https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives">https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives</A> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to caut-request@ptg.org You can reach the person managing the list at caut-owner@ptg.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of caut digest..." Today's Topics:    1. Re: P22 buzzing (Zeno Wood)    2. Rubeinstein 12' 2" piano (Richard Adkins)    3. Re: Rubeinstein 12' 2" piano (Don)    4. Re: Rubeinstein 12' 2" piano (Delwin D Fandrich) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 12:55:25 -0500 From: "Zeno Wood" <zeno.wood@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [CAUT] P22 buzzing To: "College and University Technicians" <caut@ptg.org> Message-ID: <cee63c600703010955s28d45b39v4f7e14c748f09ab8@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hey everyone, Thanks for all your advice, it's been very helpful.  I muted off the string for a couple of days while the professor had non-stop meetings, and now I got another chance to take a look at it.  Taking RicB's advice, I thought about why this is happening, and compared it to another P22.  The upper half of the bass strings have less clearance over the plate at the point it crosses the treble string hitchpins.  It seems there are 2 cracks in the soundboard, one of them just above the bass bridge.  There's no downbearing at the upper part of the bass bridge, and I'm going to take a look at the soundboard crown. Thanks, Zeno On 2/25/07, RicB <ricb@pianostemmer.no> wrote: > > Hi Zeno > > Oddball problem to be sure. That said it should be no problem to file > down the hitch pin enough to get it out of the range of the bass > string.  I'd be more interested in looking more closely at why this is > happening in the first place.  Could be harmless enough... but one never > knows until one knows as it were. > > Assuming its just a harmless oddball exception: > > Remove a couple bass strings, file down the top of the offending hitch > pin a couple mm's and chalk it off as good PR.  Shouldnt cost you more > then a few minutes of your time.  The teacher will appreciate you > bypassing the redtape and thats probably worth more then the time it > would take to do the fix. > > Cheers > RicB > > > >     Hello list! > >     I've been lurking for a little while, ever since I started working at > a >     college.  I'm wondering if anyone could help with a problem I found. > >     A professor emailed me that she had a broken string on her Yamaha >     P22 (yes, >     it's part of a loan program), G#2.  I checked it out - the string > isn't >     broken.  When played, the speaking length of the right string buzzes >     against >     the hitchpin directly below it (that is, a hitchpin for one of the >     treble >     notes).  It sounds pretty cool, but not too piano-like.  Turns out > that >     there are 5 other strings that do the same thing, but they have to >     be played >     a lot louder.  I thought back to when I tuned th is thing back in >     October or >     so, and didn't remember finding this problem.  But now it's February >     and the >     RH is nil.  But none of our other P22s do this. > >     What do you think?  How can this be fixed?  Should it be fixed? >     It's not >     our piano, so it'll go back to Yamaha to be sold after the spring >     semester. > >     Thanks for any ideas, >     Zeno Wood > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <A href="https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/caut.php/attachments/20070301/36be2a1c/attachment">https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/caut.php/attachments/20070301/36be2a1c/attachment</A>-0001.html ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 09:36:12 -0600 From: "Richard Adkins" <radkins@coe.edu> Subject: [CAUT] Rubeinstein 12' 2" piano To: <Caut@ptg.org> Message-ID: <45E9418C0200005000007620@mailhost.coe.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII <A href="http://www.rubensteinpianos.com/piano/piano">http://www.rubensteinpianos.com/piano/piano</A>-01.html I searched both PTG list and Caut, but found no mention of this piano, which supposedly was exhibited at the  2006  California State PTG Convention. Did anyone see/hear/play this instrument? What did you think of it's sound, compared to say Fazioli, for example? I can see there are agraffes on the bass bridge. Is the treble bridge conventional, or are the pins set like Wapin pins? There is an interview published on the website, but it doesn't give any indication as to the tone quality, or size of the tone. Reply to me privately, and keep this off list, if you li ke. Richard ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 10:09:25 From: Don <pianotuna@accesscomm.ca> Subject: Re: [CAUT] Rubeinstein 12' 2" piano To: College and University Technicians <caut@ptg.org> Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20070303100925.00b23470@accesscomm.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Richard, >From the image the treble bridge pins look as they usually do. <A href="http://www.rubensteinpianos.com/images/TP">http://www.rubensteinpianos.com/images/TP</A>-02.jpg At 09:36 AM 3/3/2007 -0600, you wrote: ><A href="http://www.rubensteinpianos.com/piano/piano">http://www.rubensteinpianos.com/piano/piano</A>-01.html > >I can see there are agraffes on the bass bridge. Is the treble >bridge conventional, or are the pins set like Wapin pins? > >There is an interview published on the website, but it doesn't >give any indication as to the tone quality, or size of the tone. > > >Reply to me privately, and keep this off list, if you like. > >Richard Regards, Don Rose, B.Mus., A.M.U.S., A.MUS., R.P.T. Non calor sed umor est qui nobis incommodat mailto:pianotuna@yahoo.com<A href="http://us.geocities.com/drpt1948/">http://us.geocities.com/drpt1948/</A> 3004 Grant Rd. REGINA, SK, S4S 5G7 306-539-0716 or 1-888-29t-uner ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 10:42:38 -0800 From: "Delwin D Fandrich" <fandrich@pianobuilders.com> Subject: Re: [CAUT] Rubeinstein 12' 2" piano To: "'College and University Technicians'" <caut@ptg.org> Message-ID: <004301c75dc3$b7e766b0$6401a8c0@Mainddf> Content-Type: text/plain;charset="us-ascii" | -----Original Message----- | From: caut-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org] On | Behalf Of Richard Adkins | Sent: March 03, 2007 7:36 AM | To: Caut@ptg.org | Subjec t: [CAUT] Rubeinstein 12' 2" piano | | | I can see there are agraffes on the bass bridge. Is the | treble bridge conventional, or are the pins set like Wapin pins? Actually, no, the bass bridge (along with the tenor/treble bridge) uses conventional bridge pins. It does not use anything like the Wapin bridge pin arrangement. 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