<HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-15"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.6000.16414" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY style="MARGIN: 4px 4px 1px; FONT: 10pt Tahoma"> <DIV>Someone asked if there might be a way to make your own fabric softener/hammer softener....you'd want to know the ingredients....I guess you'll need to be a chemist or know one to get the proportions....</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>You can find out ingredients by looking here:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><A href="http://householdproducts.nlm.nih.gov/cgi-bin/household/prodtree?prodcat=Home+inside&purpose=Laundry&type=fabric+softener">http://householdproducts.nlm.nih.gov/cgi-bin/household/prodtree?prodcat=Home+inside&purpose=Laundry&type=fabric+softener</A></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>click on the brand type....you can click on the ingredient name once the brand page is</DIV> <DIV>up...some have fancy names for what they put in there....I like the one they call "hydrogenated tallow"...now that sounds like something we'd like toput in a nice set of german piano hammers, doesn't it?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Downy does not list their ingredients, so I'm not sure if what you can find will actually work like Downy</DIV> <DIV>does....here's some more....also found in some hair rinses....leave the hair soft and silky.....maybe you</DIV> <DIV>could give the piano a real silky tone with it?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><STRONG>(C14-C18) Dialkyldimethylammonium methyl sulfate</STRONG></DIV> <DIV><STRONG></STRONG> </DIV> <DIV><STRONG>Di (C14-1S-alkyl) dimethyl methyl sulfate</STRONG></DIV> <DIV><STRONG></STRONG> </DIV> <DIV><STRONG>Didn't we used to have a Chemist/Caut member, or was that over on the other PTG list?</STRONG></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>"Science.enotes.com"  has an article you might read:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><A href="http://science.enotes.com/how-products-encyclopedia/fabric-softener">http://science.enotes.com/how-products-encyclopedia/fabric-softener</A></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>cheers...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Richard Adkins</DIV> <DIV>Coe College</DIV></BODY></HTML>