<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1543" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>ROTFL</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Joe Goss RPT<BR>Mother Goose Tools<BR><A href="mailto:imatunr@srvinet.com">imatunr@srvinet.com</A><BR><A href="http://www.mothergoosetools.com">www.mothergoosetools.com</A></FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=pwilliams4@unlnotes.unl.edu href="mailto:pwilliams4@unlnotes.unl.edu">Paul T Williams</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=annie@allthingspiano.com href="mailto:annie@allthingspiano.com">annie@allthingspiano.com</A> ; <A title=caut@ptg.org href="mailto:caut@ptg.org">College and University Technicians</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, April 05, 2007 8:41 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CAUT] Experiment Success</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>Whether or not it would work, the piano would smell like a pickle forever...pw</FONT> <BR><BR><BR> <TABLE width="100%"> <TBODY> <TR vAlign=top> <TD width="40%"><FONT face=sans-serif size=1><B>"Annie Grieshop" <<A href="mailto:annie@allthingspiano.com">annie@allthingspiano.com</A>></B> </FONT><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=1>Sent by: <A href="mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org">caut-bounces@ptg.org</A></FONT> <P><FONT face=sans-serif size=1>04/05/2007 09:00 AM</FONT> <TABLE border=1> <TBODY> <TR vAlign=top> <TD bgColor=white> <DIV align=center><FONT face=sans-serif size=1>Please respond to<BR><A href="mailto:annie@allthingspiano.com">annie@allthingspiano.com</A>; Please respond to<BR>College and University Technicians <<A href="mailto:caut@ptg.org">caut@ptg.org</A>></FONT></DIV></TR></TBODY></TABLE><BR></P> <TD width="59%"> <TABLE width="100%"> <TBODY> <TR vAlign=top> <TD> <DIV align=right><FONT face=sans-serif size=1>To</FONT></DIV> <TD><FONT face=sans-serif size=1>"College and University Technicians" <<A href="mailto:caut@ptg.org">caut@ptg.org</A>></FONT> <TR vAlign=top> <TD> <DIV align=right><FONT face=sans-serif size=1>cc</FONT></DIV> <TD> <TR vAlign=top> <TD> <DIV align=right><FONT face=sans-serif size=1>Subject</FONT></DIV> <TD><FONT face=sans-serif size=1>Re: [CAUT] Experiment Success</FONT></TR></TBODY></TABLE><BR> <TABLE> <TBODY> <TR vAlign=top> <TD> <TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><BR></TR></TBODY></TABLE><BR><BR><BR><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=blue size=3>If a wool sweater shrinks when washed, soaking it in vinegar will relax the fibers and allow it to be reshaped.  Will that work on hammers?  I don't have anything handy that would be a fair test.  Is vinegar too acidic for strings?  It could be neutralized, but that would mean another hammer treatment.</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3> </FONT> <BR><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=blue size=3>Annie Grieshop</FONT> <BR><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=blue size=3>Iowa (Hi, Richard!)</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Tahoma size=3>-----Original Message-----<B><BR>From:</B> caut-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Richard Adkins<B><BR>Sent:</B> Thursday, April 05, 2007 8:34 AM<B><BR>To:</B> Caut<B><BR>Subject:</B> [CAUT] Experiment Success<BR></FONT><BR><FONT size=3>Someone asked if there might be a way to make your own fabric softener/hammer softener....you'd want to know the ingredients....I guess you'll need to be a chemist or know one to get the proportions....</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3> </FONT> <BR><FONT size=3>You can find out ingredients by looking here:</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3> </FONT> <BR><A href="http://householdproducts.nlm.nih.gov/cgi-bin/household/prodtree?prodcat=Home+inside&purpose=Laundry&type=fabric+softener"><FONT color=blue size=3><U>http://householdproducts.nlm.nih.gov/cgi-bin/household/prodtree?prodcat=Home+inside&purpose=Laundry&type=fabric+softener</U></FONT></A> <BR><FONT size=3> </FONT> <BR><FONT size=3>click on the brand type....you can click on the ingredient name once the brand page is</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3>up...some have fancy names for what they put in there....I like the one they call "hydrogenated tallow"...now that sounds like something we'd like toput in a nice set of german piano hammers, doesn't it?</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3> </FONT> <BR><FONT size=3>Downy does not list their ingredients, so I'm not sure if what you can find will actually work like Downy</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3>does....here's some more....also found in some hair rinses....leave the hair soft and silky.....maybe you</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3>could give the piano a real silky tone with it?</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3> </FONT> <BR><FONT size=3><B>(C14-C18) Dialkyldimethylammonium methyl sulfate</B></FONT> <BR><FONT size=3> </FONT> <BR><FONT size=3><B>Di (C14-1S-alkyl) dimethyl methyl sulfate</B></FONT> <BR><FONT size=3> </FONT> <BR><FONT size=3><B>Didn't we used to have a Chemist/Caut member, or was that over on the other PTG list?</B></FONT> <BR><FONT size=3> </FONT> <BR><FONT size=3>"Science.enotes.com"  has an article you might read:</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3> </FONT> <BR><A href="http://science.enotes.com/how-products-encyclopedia/fabric-softener"><FONT color=blue size=3><U>http://science.enotes.com/how-products-encyclopedia/fabric-softener</U></FONT></A> <BR><FONT size=3> </FONT> <BR><FONT size=3>cheers...</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3> </FONT> <BR><FONT size=3>Richard Adkins</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3>Coe College</FONT> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>