<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.6000.16414" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY style="MARGIN: 4px 4px 1px; FONT: 10pt Tahoma"> <DIV><SPAN class=984430714-05042007><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff>At the risk of sounding a bit like "Hints from Heloise", washing soda also has the effect of relaxing fibers and is surely caustic enough to neutralize vinegar. <A href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium_carbonate">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium_carbonate</A>  </FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=984430714-05042007><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=984430714-05042007><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff>I'm looking for anything that might help with the dessicated hammers found on the old pianos that my customers can't afford to replace but need for their kids' lessons.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=984430714-05042007><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=984430714-05042007><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff>Annie Grieshop</FONT> </SPAN></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> caut-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Richard Adkins<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, April 05, 2007 8:34 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Caut<BR><B>Subject:</B> [CAUT] Experiment Success<BR><BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV>Someone asked if there might be a way to make your own fabric softener/hammer softener....you'd want to know the ingredients....I guess you'll need to be a chemist or know one to get the proportions....</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>You can find out ingredients by looking here:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><A href="http://householdproducts.nlm.nih.gov/cgi-bin/household/prodtree?prodcat=Home+inside&purpose=Laundry&type=fabric+softener">http://householdproducts.nlm.nih.gov/cgi-bin/household/prodtree?prodcat=Home+inside&purpose=Laundry&type=fabric+softener</A></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>click on the brand type....you can click on the ingredient name once the brand page is</DIV> <DIV>up...some have fancy names for what they put in there....I like the one they call "hydrogenated tallow"...now that sounds like something we'd like toput in a nice set of german piano hammers, doesn't it?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Downy does not list their ingredients, so I'm not sure if what you can find will actually work like Downy</DIV> <DIV>does....here's some more....also found in some hair rinses....leave the hair soft and silky.....maybe you</DIV> <DIV>could give the piano a real silky tone with it?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><STRONG>(C14-C18) Dialkyldimethylammonium methyl sulfate</STRONG></DIV> <DIV><STRONG></STRONG> </DIV> <DIV><STRONG>Di (C14-1S-alkyl) dimethyl methyl sulfate</STRONG></DIV> <DIV><STRONG></STRONG> </DIV> <DIV><STRONG>Didn't we used to have a Chemist/Caut member, or was that over on the other PTG list?</STRONG></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>"Science.enotes.com"  has an article you might read:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><A href="http://science.enotes.com/how-products-encyclopedia/fabric-softener">http://science.enotes.com/how-products-encyclopedia/fabric-softener</A></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>cheers...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Richard Adkins</DIV> <DIV>Coe College</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>