<div>Do it when you reheat your coffee. You can fit more than one thing in there at a time.</div>
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<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 5/13/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Barbara Richmond</b> <<a href="mailto:piano57@insightbb.com">piano57@insightbb.com</a>> wrote:</span>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">Ed,<br><br>Maybe I've misunderstood all these years, but aren't you supposed to have<br>something with some form of liquid/moisture in a microwave when running it
<br>or it (the appliance) might be damaged? Would potential critter eggs supply<br>enough moisture?<br><br>Barbara Richmond<br><br>----- Original Message -----<br>From: "Ed Sutton" <<a href="mailto:ed440@mindspring.com">
ed440@mindspring.com</a>><br>To: "College and University Technicians" <<a href="mailto:caut@ptg.org">caut@ptg.org</a>><br>Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 12:28 PM<br>Subject: Re: [CAUT] Critter-damaged punchings
<br><br><br>> Annie-<br>><br>> How about microwaving them?<br>><br>> Ed Sutton<br>><br>> ----- Original Message -----<br>> From: "Annie Grieshop" <<a href="mailto:annie@allthingspiano.com">
annie@allthingspiano.com</a>><br>> To: "College and University Technicians" <<a href="mailto:caut@ptg.org">caut@ptg.org</a>><br>> Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 12:33 PM<br>> Subject: [PHISH] Re: [CAUT] Critter-damaged punchings
<br>><br>><br>>> Israel,<br>>><br>>> Put the new punchings in a cloth or mesh bag, toss the bag in a<br>>> clothesdryer, and let it tumble for 15-20 minutes. That will certainly<br>>> kill
<br>>> any larvae and probably do in the eggs, as well, without any chemicals at<br>>> all. Heat would guarantee the eggs are killed (and it shouldn't harm the<br>>> punchings -- try it with a few to find out), but even cold-air tumbling
<br>>> will<br>>> probably do a thorough job on them.<br>>><br>>> The bag does need to get thrown around inside the dryer, so you might<br>>> have<br>>> to add tennis balls or tennis shoes (the same procedure as fluffing a
<br>>> down<br>>> comforter).<br>>><br>>>>From your description, my guess is the damage was done before the pianos<br>>> left the factory and is not an ongoing problem. But better to have some
<br>>> extra insurance.<br>>><br>>> Annie Grieshop<br>>><br>>>> -----Original Message-----<br>>>> From: <a href="mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org">caut-bounces@ptg.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org">
caut-bounces@ptg.org</a>]On Behalf Of<br>>>> Israel Stein<br>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 9:39 AM<br>>>> To: <a href="mailto:caut@ptg.org">caut@ptg.org</a><br>>>> Subject: [CAUT] Critter-damaged punchings
<br>>>><br>>>><br>>>> At 11:01 AM 5/11/2007, James Ellis wrote:<br>>>> >Whenever I would find moth-critter damage to punchings, I would strip<br>>>> >the<br>>>> >keybed clean - puncings, key cloth, and all, clean the whole piano
<br>>>> >thoroughly, looking for any evidence of moth eggs. If I found them,<br>>>> >the<br>>>> >job would become more extensive. After that, there would usually be no<br>>>> >problem, provided the piano was cleaned once in a while.
<br>>>> ><br>>>> >Tuners Supply Company used to have a moth proofing liquid called<br>>>> >X-Hale.<br>>>> >Fumes from that stuff were so strong they would make your eyes<br>
>>> burn. There<br>>>> >was no water in it. One would soak the insides of the piano<br>>>> with it, close<br>>>> >it up, and cover it for 24 hours. No live critters or eggs would be
<br>>>> >left<br>>>> >after that, and the funes would soon dissipate after opening the<br>>>> piano back<br>>>> >up.<br>>>> ><br>>>> >That was 60 years ago. I don't have that problem now. Israel,
<br>>>> do you find<br>>>> >the damage in several pianos? If so, there is a common source of these<br>>>> >critters, and perhaps you should get the pest control people involved.<br>>>> >Clean the pianos out, and replace anything that shows any sign of
<br>>>> >critter<br>>>> >gnawing. You don't want to leave any critter eggs in there.<br>>>> ><br>>>> >Good Luck, Jim Ellis<br>>>><br>>>><br>>>> Jim,
<br>>>><br>>>> Thanks for the information. We found the problem in several pianos -<br>>>> but only in Asian ones: Yamahas and the Korean Kohler & Campbells,<br>>>> all about 10 years old. No problems with American pianos - and we do
<br>>>> have lots of much older Steinways, Baldwins, Wurlitzers and Everetts<br>>>> at the school. So we suspect that the critters are imported with the<br>>>> pianos from the source country and are not a local infestation. I
<br>>>> hear that this is common. Since there are no wool furnishings around<br>>>> here - curtains, stuffed chairs, carpets, etc. - I don't see how<br>>>> these critters would spread from piano to piano. Add I don't see
<br>>>> moths flying around. But then there is the theater department on the<br>>>> other end of the building - costume shop, wardrobe, prop storage...<br>>>> Hmm... Maybe I should check with them about moth damage in their
<br>>>> stuff...<br>>>><br>>>> Yamaha sent us a bunch of replacement punchings free - but I hesitate<br>>>> to put them in pianos, since they might be the source of the<br>>>> infestation... Maybe fumigating them with or dipping them in one of
<br>>>> the suggested substances before use might be a good idea?<br>>>><br>>>> Israel Stein.<br>>>><br>>>><br>>>><br>>>><br>>>><br>>><br>><br>
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