<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; "><DIV><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"></BLOCKQUOTE>I like the remover because I don't need steam and I don't need wedges. It's fast and easy to control. The remover works fast enough that the wood doesn't get as saturated as when using just water and felt wedges. I've never had any trouble getting the new bushings to stick, and I've never loosened a key button. I probably get most of the remover out when I scrape any gelled glue out of the mortise. The wood dries very quickly, but that's probably because I'm in Colorado and we usually have less than 20% humidity.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>I have one of the shark steamers mention here, but I find that it tends to expel quite a bit of water along with the steam. </DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Jeremy Gould<BR><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 37px; text-indent: -37px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); min-height: 14px; "></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 37px; text-indent: -37px; "><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" color="#000000" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><B>From: </B></FONT><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">"Keith Roberts" <<A href="mailto:keithspiano@gmail.com">keithspiano@gmail.com</A>></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 34px; text-indent: -34px; "><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" color="#000000" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><B>Date: </B></FONT><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">July 20, 2007 4:21:35 PM MDT</FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 21px; text-indent: -21px; "><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" color="#000000" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><B>To: </B></FONT><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">"College and University Technicians" <<A href="mailto:caut@ptg.org">caut@ptg.org</A>></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 50px; text-indent: -50px; "><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" color="#000000" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><B>Subject: </B></FONT><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica"><B>Re: [CAUT] Steamer</B></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 58px; text-indent: -58px; "><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" color="#000000" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><B>Reply-To: </B></FONT><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica"><A href="mailto:keithspiano@gmail.com">keithspiano@gmail.com</A>, College and University Technicians <<A href="mailto:caut@ptg.org">caut@ptg.org</A>></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV> <DIV>I like the steam because it doesn't use the remover. I don't like to impregnate the surfaces I need to glue with glue remover. I feel like I should rinse them afterwards. I try to use the remover sparingly as a dust-buster or wetting agent only and let the water do the work. Add heat and the water does better. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>A good steam can vary in temp by 80*. When it's hot, the wood dries in minutes after removing the bushings. This is not good for resizing the mortices. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Keith Roberts<BR><BR> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class="gmail_quote">On 7/20/07, <B class="gmail_sendername">Jeremy Gould</B> <<A href="mailto:jeremygould@bsn1.net">jeremygould@bsn1.net</A>> wrote:</SPAN> <BLOCKQUOTE class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">For removing key bushings, I've had good luck using a hypo oiler with<BR>a dilute solution of wallpaper paste remover. I just soak the <BR>bushings, wait 15 minutes or so, and if they don't fall off, I run my<BR>key easing iron through the damp bushing to apply a little steam.<BR>It's pretty quick and easy unless someone has used yellow wood glue. <BR><BR>Jeremy Gould<BR><BR>Pianist, Teacher, Piano Technician<BR>Greeley Area Music Teachers Association, President<BR><BR>Gould and Fall Piano<BR>1720 17th Ave.<BR>Greeley, CO 80631<BR>970.336.1496<BR><BR><A href="mailto:jeremygould@bsn1.net"> jeremygould@bsn1.net</A><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 37px; text-indent: -37px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); min-height: 14px; "><B></B><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 37px; text-indent: -37px; "><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" color="#000000" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><B>From: </B></FONT><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">"Ted Sambell" <<A href="mailto:edward.sambell@sympatico.ca">edward.sambell@sympatico.ca</A>></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 34px; text-indent: -34px; "><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" color="#000000" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><B>Date: </B></FONT><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">July 20, 2007 10:53:18 AM MDT</FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 21px; text-indent: -21px; "><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" color="#000000" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><B>To: </B></FONT><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">"College and University Technicians" <<A href="mailto:caut@ptg.org">caut@ptg.org</A>></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 50px; text-indent: -50px; "><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" color="#000000" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><B>Subject: </B></FONT><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica"><B>Re: [CAUT] steamer</B></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 58px; text-indent: -58px; "><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" color="#000000" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><B>Reply-To: </B></FONT><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">College and University Technicians <<A href="mailto:caut@ptg.org">caut@ptg.org</A>></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV> <O:SMARTTAGTYPE name="PostalCode" namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></O:SMARTTAGTYPE><O:SMARTTAGTYPE name="State" namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></O:SMARTTAGTYPE><O:SMARTTAGTYPE name="City" namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></O:SMARTTAGTYPE><O:SMARTTAGTYPE name="Street" namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></O:SMARTTAGTYPE><O:SMARTTAGTYPE name="PlaceType" namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></O:SMARTTAGTYPE><O:SMARTTAGTYPE name="PlaceName" namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></O:SMARTTAGTYPE><O:SMARTTAGTYPE name="place" namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></O:SMARTTAGTYPE><O:SMARTTAGTYPE name="address" namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></O:SMARTTAGTYPE><O:SMARTTAGTYPE name="PersonName" namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></O:SMARTTAGTYPE> <DIV>The reason soaking might not work is because of drying out. One should consider cutting wedges of hammer felt to fit into the mortices. to keep them wet. Take a look at Bill Spurlock's website: <A href="http://www.spurlocktools.com">www.spurlocktools.com</A> I like to insert his sizing cauls and lightly dry the keys with a heat gun.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Ted Sambell</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir="ltr" style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title="agaree@admin.fsu.edu" href="mailto:agaree@admin.fsu.edu">Garee, Anne E.</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title="caut@ptg.org" href="mailto:caut@ptg.org">caut@ptg.org</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, July 20, 2007 11:16 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [CAUT] steamer</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV class="Section1"><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial" color="navy" size="2"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Alan,<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial" color="navy" size="2"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Check out the Shark Steamer that was featured in the journal earlier this year. It is hand-held or sits on the bench for hands-free use. It directs the steam in a very narrow path which is great for targeting just the bushing. You can have a handful of keys in one hand and the tweezers or needle nose in the other. <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial" color="navy" size="2"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial" color="navy" size="2"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Here is a link I found just now through Google.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial" color="navy" size="2"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><A title="http://www.target.com/gp/detail.html/sr=1-6/qid=1184864331/ref=sr_1_6/601-9110439-1358515?ie=UTF8&asin=B000GHDN38" href="http://www.target.com/gp/detail.html/sr=1-6/qid=1184864331/ref=sr_1_6/601-9110439-1358515?ie=UTF8&asin=B000GHDN38">http://www.target.com/gp/detail.html/sr=1-6/qid=1184864331/ref=sr_1_6/601-9110439-1358515?ie=UTF8&asin=B000GHDN38</A><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial" color="navy" size="2"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial" color="navy" size="2"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I got mine at Bed, <ST1:PLACE w:st="on"><ST1:CITY w:st="on">Bath</ST1:CITY></ST1:PLACE> and Beyond but they are available through Target, etc. Nice tool.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial" color="navy" size="2"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Anne Garee<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial" size="2"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial" size="2"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size="1"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">Anne Garee, Program Director for Piano Technology<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><ST1:PLACE w:st="on"><ST1:PLACENAME w:st="on"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size="1"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">Florida</SPAN></FONT></ST1:PLACENAME><FONT size="1"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt"> <ST1:PLACETYPE w:st="on">State</ST1:PLACETYPE> <ST1:PLACETYPE w:st="on">University</ST1:PLACETYPE> <ST1:PLACETYPE w:st="on">College</ST1:PLACETYPE></SPAN></FONT></ST1:PLACE><FONT size="1"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt"> of Music<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><ST1:STREET w:st="on"><ST1:ADDRESS w:st="on"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size="1"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">132 N. Copeland Street</SPAN></FONT></ST1:ADDRESS></ST1:STREET><FONT size="1"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt"> <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><ST1:PLACE w:st="on"><ST1:CITY w:st="on"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size="1"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">Tallahassee</SPAN></FONT></ST1:CITY><FONT size="1"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">, <ST1:STATE w:st="on">FL</ST1:STATE> <ST1:POSTALCODE w:st="on">32306-1180</ST1:POSTALCODE></SPAN></FONT></ST1:PLACE><FONT size="1"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size="1"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">850-645-7873<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><ST1:PERSONNAME w:st="on"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size="1"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt"><A href="mailto:agaree@fsu.edu">agaree@fsu.edu</A></SPAN></FONT></ST1:PERSONNAME><FONT size="1"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size="3"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 37px; text-indent: -37px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); min-height: 14px; "><B></B><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 37px; text-indent: -37px; "><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" color="#000000" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><B>From: </B></FONT><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">"Glen Bingham" <<A href="mailto:glenbingham@gmail.com">glenbingham@gmail.com</A>></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 34px; text-indent: -34px; "><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" color="#000000" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><B>Date: </B></FONT><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">July 20, 2007 9:00:45 AM MDT</FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 21px; text-indent: -21px; "><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" color="#000000" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><B>To: </B></FONT><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica"><A href="mailto:caut@ptg.org">caut@ptg.org</A></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 50px; text-indent: -50px; "><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" color="#000000" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><B>Subject: </B></FONT><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica"><B>[CAUT] Stripped keyslip screw</B></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 58px; text-indent: -58px; "><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" color="#000000" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><B>Reply-To: </B></FONT><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">College and University Technicians <<A href="mailto:caut@ptg.org">caut@ptg.org</A>></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV> <BR>Hey List,<BR><BR>Any ideas on how to remove a screw with a stripped head? It's countersunk into the keybed of a Baldwin M holding the keyslip in place. <BR>I can't take out the action till I remove the keyslip and it needs action work! <BR><BR>Thanks,<BR>Glen Bingham<BR><BR>P.S. The piano is located in the ballroom of a hotel :) <BR><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 37px; text-indent: -37px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); min-height: 14px; "><B></B><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 37px; text-indent: -37px; "><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" color="#000000" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><B>From: </B></FONT><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica"><A href="mailto:ITUNEPIANO@aol.com">ITUNEPIANO@aol.com</A></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 34px; text-indent: -34px; "><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" color="#000000" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><B>Date: </B></FONT><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">July 20, 2007 7:23:23 PM MDT</FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 21px; text-indent: -21px; "><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" color="#000000" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><B>To: </B></FONT><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica"><A href="mailto:caut@ptg.org">caut@ptg.org</A></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 50px; text-indent: -50px; "><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" color="#000000" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><B>Subject: </B></FONT><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica"><B>Re: [CAUT] Stripped keyslip screw</B></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 58px; text-indent: -58px; "><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" color="#000000" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><B>Reply-To: </B></FONT><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">College and University Technicians <<A href="mailto:caut@ptg.org">caut@ptg.org</A>></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV> <FONT id="role_document" face="Arial" color="#000000" size="2"> <DIV>Buy an easy-out of the appropriate size at the hardware store. It comes with a drill bit and an reverse threaded screw. Use a sharp center punch at the middle of the screw head to center the drill bit, Drill a hole in the middle of the screw. Gently screw in the easy-out, counter clockwise and the screw will come out. Bob.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV></FONT><BR><BR><BR><DIV><FONT style="color: black; font: normal 10pt ARIAL, SAN-SERIF;"><HR style="MARGIN-TOP: 10px">Get a sneak peek of the all-new <A title="http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour/?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000982" href="http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour/?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000982" target="_blank">AOL.com</A>.</FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 37px; text-indent: -37px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); min-height: 14px; "><B></B><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 37px; text-indent: -37px; "><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" color="#000000" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><B>From: </B></FONT><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">"Chris R." <<A href="mailto:rpsvt@juno.com">rpsvt@juno.com</A>></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 34px; text-indent: -34px; "><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" color="#000000" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><B>Date: </B></FONT><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">July 21, 2007 1:32:53 AM MDT</FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 21px; text-indent: -21px; "><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" color="#000000" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><B>To: </B></FONT><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica"><A href="mailto:caut@ptg.org">caut@ptg.org</A></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 50px; text-indent: -50px; "><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" color="#000000" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><B>Subject: </B></FONT><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica"><B>Re: [CAUT] Stripped keyslip screw</B></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 58px; text-indent: -58px; "><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" color="#000000" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><B>Reply-To: </B></FONT><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">College and University Technicians <<A href="mailto:caut@ptg.org">caut@ptg.org</A>></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">I would drill into the screw head until it comes off completely, then the <SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">key slip should just lift out as though the screw were a guide pin.<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">You would have to look at the other screws to make sure the threading</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">is only in the key slip part.<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>Another way is a stripped screw remover</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">kit you can get at the hardware store.</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">--Respectfully,<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Chris Rawson,CPT,RPT</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 37px; text-indent: -37px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); min-height: 14px; "><B></B><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 37px; text-indent: -37px; "><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" color="#000000" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><B>From: </B></FONT><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">"Delwin D Fandrich" <<A href="mailto:fandrich@pianobuilders.com">fandrich@pianobuilders.com</A>></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 34px; text-indent: -34px; "><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" color="#000000" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><B>Date: </B></FONT><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">July 20, 2007 7:48:10 PM MDT</FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 21px; text-indent: -21px; "><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" color="#000000" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><B>To: </B></FONT><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">"'College and University Technicians'" <<A href="mailto:caut@ptg.org">caut@ptg.org</A>></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 50px; text-indent: -50px; "><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" color="#000000" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><B>Subject: </B></FONT><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica"><B>Re: [CAUT] Stripped keyslip screw</B></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 58px; text-indent: -58px; "><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" color="#000000" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><B>Reply-To: </B></FONT><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">College and University Technicians <<A href="mailto:caut@ptg.org">caut@ptg.org</A>></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV> <DIV dir="ltr" align="left"><SPAN class="125154701-21072007"><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color="#000080" size="3">And, if you use a reverse-twist drill bit the screw may come out while you're drilling. (See McMaster-Carr, etc.)</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV dir="ltr" align="left"><SPAN class="125154701-21072007"><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color="#000080" size="3"></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV dir="ltr" align="left"><SPAN class="125154701-21072007"><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color="#000080" size="3">Del</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE dir="ltr" style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000080 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV class="OutlookMessageHeader" lang="en-us" dir="ltr" align="left"> <HR tabindex="-1"> <FONT face="Tahoma" size="2"><B>From:</B> caut-bounces@ptg.org [<A href="mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org">mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org</A>] <B>On Behalf Of </B><A href="mailto:ITUNEPIANO@aol.com">ITUNEPIANO@aol.com</A><BR><B>Sent:</B> July 20, 2007 6:23 PM<BR><B>To:</B> caut@ptg.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CAUT] Stripped keyslip screw<BR></FONT><BR></DIV> <DIV></DIV><FONT id="role_document" face="Arial" color="#000000" size="2"> <DIV>Buy an easy-out of the appropriate size at the hardware store. It comes with a drill bit and an reverse threaded screw. Use a sharp center punch at the middle of the screw head to center the drill bit, Drill a hole in the middle of the screw. Gently screw in the easy-out, counter clockwise and the screw will come out. 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Porritt" <<A href="mailto:dporritt@smu.edu">dporritt@smu.edu</A>></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 34px; text-indent: -34px; "><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" color="#000000" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><B>Date: </B></FONT><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">July 21, 2007 6:49:03 AM MDT</FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 21px; text-indent: -21px; "><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" color="#000000" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><B>To: </B></FONT><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">"'College and University Technicians'" <<A href="mailto:caut@ptg.org">caut@ptg.org</A>></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 50px; text-indent: -50px; "><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" color="#000000" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><B>Subject: </B></FONT><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica"><B>Re: [CAUT] Stripped keyslip screw</B></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 58px; text-indent: -58px; "><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" color="#000000" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><B>Reply-To: </B></FONT><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica"><A href="mailto:dporritt@smu.edu">dporritt@smu.edu</A>, College and University Technicians <<A href="mailto:caut@ptg.org">caut@ptg.org</A>></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV> <DIV class="Section1"><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" color="blue" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size:12.0pt;color:blue">If you have a Dremel or similar tool with the cut-off wheel you can usually use that to cut a new slot in the screw.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" color="blue" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size:12.0pt;color:blue"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" color="blue" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size:12.0pt;color:blue">dp<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" color="blue" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size:12.0pt;color:blue"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="2" color="blue" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue">____________________</SPAN></FONT><FONT color="blue"><SPAN style="color:blue"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" color="blue" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size:12.0pt;color:blue">David M. Porritt, RPT<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" color="blue" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size:12.0pt;color:blue"><A href="mailto:dporritt@smu.edu">dporritt@smu.edu</A><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" color="blue" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size:12.0pt;color:blue"> </SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P> </DIV> <DIV> <DIV class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size:12.0pt"> <HR size="2" width="100%" align="center" tabindex="-1"> </SPAN></FONT></DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><B><FONT size="2" face="Tahoma"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT size="2" face="Tahoma"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma"> caut-bounces@ptg.org [<A href="mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org">mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org</A>] <B><SPAN style="font-weight: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Glen Bingham<BR> <B><SPAN style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Friday, July 20, 2007 10:01 AM<BR> <B><SPAN style="font-weight:bold">To:</SPAN></B> <A href="mailto:caut@ptg.org">caut@ptg.org</A><BR> <B><SPAN style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> [CAUT] Stripped keyslip screw</SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P> </DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt"><BR> Hey List,<BR> <BR> Any ideas on how to remove a screw with a stripped head? It's countersunk into the keybed of a Baldwin M holding the keyslip in place. <BR> I can't take out the action till I remove the keyslip and it needs action work! <BR> <BR> Thanks,<BR> Glen Bingham<BR> <BR> P.S. 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