<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=utf-8"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1555" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV><SPAN class=480032121-01082007><FONT face=Arial size=2>Perhaps the difference in the cloth Ed, is because the key-bushings are getting a "permafree" treatment at the factory?</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=480032121-01082007><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=480032121-01082007><FONT face=Arial size=2>As for the "knockier" quality imparted to the felt by compressing the fit and/or ironing, we find this a very liveable trade-off for the closer tolerance of fit. </FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=480032121-01082007><FONT face=Arial size=2>(very much like the um... er... "Faustian" decision to return to leather)   </FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=480032121-01082007></SPAN><SPAN class=480032121-01082007></SPAN><SPAN class=480032121-01082007><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=480032121-01082007><FONT face=Arial size=2>In actual playing, the less sideplay, the less discernable the "knock," if any at all. </FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=480032121-01082007><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=480032121-01082007><FONT face=Arial size=2>The odd time we have ended up with a loose initial fit, and tried the bushings "un-ironed" as a test. </FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=480032121-01082007><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=480032121-01082007><FONT face=Arial size=2>However, when the bushing rides the pin down, much like normal playing conditions, even on a polished/Pro-lubed pin, there is a definite sensation of the fuzzy un-finished felt, and I don't like it! </FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=480032121-01082007><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=480032121-01082007><FONT face=Arial size=2>Moreso IMHO, at the front-rail, than at the balance pin. (again JMHO)     </FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=480032121-01082007></SPAN><SPAN class=480032121-01082007><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=480032121-01082007><FONT face=Arial size=2>BTW Ed, despite my reference to impromptu manicure, I seriously would like to know what "grit" you use/recommend on the drum-sander for leather-sizing. </FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=480032121-01082007></SPAN><SPAN class=480032121-01082007><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=480032121-01082007><FONT face=Arial size=2>You too Jim (and others), what grit do you suggest? </FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=480032121-01082007><FONT face=Arial size=2>(I'm not taking it too personal, but BYU is still bouncing my e-mails... guess I could always use the phone eh, I mean "huh?" :>) </FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=480032121-01082007><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=480032121-01082007><FONT face=Arial size=2>thanks,</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=480032121-01082007><FONT face=Arial size=2>Mark Cramer,</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=480032121-01082007><FONT face=Arial size=2>Brandon University</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=480032121-01082007><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=480032121-01082007><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=480032121-01082007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=480032121-01082007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=480032121-01082007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=480032121-01082007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=480032121-01082007> </SPAN><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> caut-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>A440A@aol.com<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, August 01, 2007 2:27 PM<BR><B>To:</B> caut@ptg.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CAUT] Bushing cloth thickness<BR><BR></DIV></FONT> <BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=arial,helvetica> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" cite="" TYPE="CITE"><FONT face=Geneva size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">Fred writes: </FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><BR></FONT><FONT face=Geneva size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><BR></FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">Pianotek sells Hainesworth cloth, same felt that Steinway and Renner use to the best of my knowledge (both did last I asked). If there is any other quality bushing felt out there available to us techs, I’d like to know about it</FONT><FONT face=Geneva size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT face=Geneva size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><BR>I have to say that the Pianotek cloth does not look or feel the same as the Steinway stock.  The factory cloth is much stiffer, and the appearance is certainly not the same.  There is more fuzz on the Pianotek cloth and the nap feels softer.  <BR>Regards, <BR></FONT><FONT face=Geneva size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><BR>Ed Foote RPT<BR></FONT><FONT face=Geneva size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"></FONT><BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR>Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>