<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40" xmlns:v = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:st1 = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"><HEAD><TITLE>[CAUT] Black on Black... (Jack alignment)</TITLE> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.6000.16481" name=GENERATOR><o:SmartTagType name="PersonName" namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></o:SmartTagType> <STYLE>  </STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY lang=EN-US vLink=purple link=blue> <DIV dir=ltr align=left>Oh how nice to see this in print!</DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left>les bartlett</DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left>houston</DIV> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left> <HR tabIndex=-1> From: caut-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of Jim Busby Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 2:14 PM To: dporritt@smu.edu; College and University Technicians Subject: Re: [CAUT] Black on Black... (Jack alignment) </DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV class=Section1> Dave,<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> You’re absolutely right. In the spirit of “question everything” (Thanks Ron) we should see if the textbook setting of the jack is THE best way. On older parts I’ve had to align the jack/knuckle back a bit (note: only on specific notes) because the jacks would cheat, and on newer parts I’ve actually gone a bit forward to get the right feel. Maybe our “visually impaired” friends have it right…<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> I’m going to do some experimenting.<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> Regards,<o:p></o:p> Jim<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <DIV> <DIV class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center> <HR tabIndex=-1 align=center width="100%" SIZE=2> </DIV> From: caut-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of David M. Porritt Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 5:07 PM To: '<st1:PersonName w:st="on">College and University Technicians</st1:PersonName>' Subject: Re: [CAUT] Black on Black... (Jack alignment)<o:p></o:p></DIV> <o:p> </o:p> Jim:<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> In reality we have set the distal edge of the jack lined up with the distal edge of the knuckle core “because we’ve been told to do it that way.”  The job we’re really trying to do is set the jack so that it’s far enough under the knuckle never to cheat, yet close enough to escapement not to drag across the knuckle any more than necessary.  This method should accomplish that goal better than lining up the edges.  Depending on the straightness of the knuckles, or uneven knuckle wear it might indeed result in a crooked jack line but they should function better than the arbitrary method.  <o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> dave<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <DIV> ____________________<o:p></o:p> David M. Porritt, RPT<o:p></o:p> <A href="mailto:dporritt@smu.edu">dporritt@smu.edu</A><o:p></o:p>  <o:p></o:p></DIV> <DIV> <DIV class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center> <HR tabIndex=-1 align=center width="100%" SIZE=2> </DIV> From: caut-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of Jim Busby Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 4:50 PM To: <st1:PersonName w:st="on">College and University Technicians</st1:PersonName> Subject: Re: [CAUT] Black on Black... (Jack alignment)<o:p></o:p></DIV> <o:p> </o:p> Hi Jon,<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> You know, my gut feeling tells me that this (white out) will work and solve my immediate problem. However, have you tried the “feel” method Michael W. wrote about? I’ve used that method to check for cheating jacks, but have never set jack position with it. I’m wondering if this “feel” of the jack will be as accurate (or more) for touch as the sight method. Once again, asking a simple question like this has caused me to examine my own long-used techniques. His experience is more vast than mine so… I’m off to experiment! <o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> Regards,<o:p></o:p> Jim Busby<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <DIV> <DIV class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center> <HR tabIndex=-1 align=center width="100%" SIZE=2> </DIV> From: caut-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of Jon Page Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 1:58 PM To: caut@ptg.org Subject: [CAUT] Black on Black... (Jack alignment)<o:p></o:p></DIV> <o:p> </o:p> <BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt"> It's just the plane of the jack that I can't see.<o:p></o:p></BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV> <o:p> </o:p></DIV> <DIV> Put some White Out or white finger nail polish<o:p></o:p></DIV> <DIV> on the back edge of the jack.<o:p></o:p></DIV> <DIV> <o:p> </o:p></DIV> <DIV> I like to sight down the core of the adjacent knuckle<o:p></o:p></DIV> <DIV> and the bring the jack abeam of it.<o:p></o:p></DIV><PRE><X-SIGSEP>-- <o:p></o:p></PRE> <DIV> </X-SIGSEP>Regards, Jon Page<o:p></o:p></DIV></DIV> No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.8/940 - Release Date: 08/06/2007 4:53 PM </BODY></HTML>