<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; "><SPAN class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </SPAN>Yes, I agree, a .5 mm difference in alignment (one jack that much farther forward than its neighbors, for example) is readily noticeable to a sensitive pianist (and that is the pianist we cauts are working for, or so I like to believe when I'm not in a cynical mood <G>). As is a difference in setup of all jacks of the same dimension. One of my piano profs recently complained about "lack of positive feel" on her piano. What had I done? Adjusted the jacks forward a bare smidgen, thinking it was too much resistance (letoff was too noticeable). I moved them back. She's happy. <DIV><SPAN class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </SPAN>Now your everyday amateur probably won't notice that difference. And it only really shows up when everything is pretty well refined. But "everything being pretty well refined" is a function of obsessive attention to many details, of which this is just one. The total effect is VERY noticeable to just about anyone who can play a piano. So I don't like to take the attitude that something is "good enough for the average bloke." It's not that much harder to get every single unison dead on and solid on every single piano, to give a different example. And the total effect of that is very noticeable also.<BR><DIV> <SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><DIV>Regards,</DIV><DIV>Fred Sturm</DIV><DIV>University of New Mexico</DIV><DIV><A href="mailto:fssturm@unm.edu">fssturm@unm.edu</A></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"></SPAN></SPAN> </DIV><BR><DIV><DIV>On Aug 9, 2007, at 10:56 AM, Don Mannino wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><DIV dir="ltr" align="left"><SPAN class="640335416-09082007"><FONT color="#000080"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 128); text-align: -khtml-left; ">Ed,</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV><DIV dir="ltr" align="left"><SPAN class="640335416-09082007"><FONT color="#000080"></FONT></SPAN><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="text-align: -khtml-left; "> </SPAN></DIV><DIV dir="ltr" align="left"><SPAN class="640335416-09082007"><FONT color="#000080"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 128); text-align: -khtml-left; ">As far as the disagreements go, I'll stay out of it.</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV><DIV dir="ltr" align="left"><SPAN class="640335416-09082007"><FONT color="#000080"></FONT></SPAN><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="text-align: -khtml-left; "> </SPAN></DIV><DIV dir="ltr" align="left"><SPAN class="640335416-09082007"><FONT color="#000080"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 128); text-align: -khtml-left; ">Based on your statement about pianists feeling jack alignment, I must respectfully disagree. Most pianists with reasonable skill will feel .5mm misalignment, but will not be able to identify it as such. It is very important to be very even, although the exact best location might be debatable.</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV><DIV dir="ltr" align="left"><SPAN class="640335416-09082007"><FONT color="#000080"></FONT></SPAN><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="text-align: -khtml-left; "> </SPAN></DIV><DIV dir="ltr" align="left"><SPAN class="640335416-09082007"><FONT color="#000080"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 128); text-align: -khtml-left; ">Don Mannino</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR><BLOCKQUOTE dir="ltr" style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000080 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><DIV class="OutlookMessageHeader" lang="en-us" dir="ltr" align="left"><HR tabindex="-1"><FONT face="Tahoma" size="2"><B style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 10px; font-weight: bold; text-align: -khtml-left; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 10px; font-weight: bold; text-align: -khtml-left; ">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 10px; text-align: -khtml-left; "> caut-bounces@ptg.org [<A href="mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org">mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org</A>] </SPAN><B style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 10px; font-weight: bold; text-align: -khtml-left; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 10px; font-weight: bold; text-align: -khtml-left; ">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 10px; text-align: -khtml-left; ">Ed Sutton</SPAN><BR style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 10px; text-align: -khtml-left; "><B style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 10px; font-weight: bold; text-align: -khtml-left; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 10px; font-weight: bold; text-align: -khtml-left; ">Sent:</SPAN></B><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 10px; text-align: -khtml-left; "> Thursday, August 09, 2007 9:04 AM</SPAN><BR style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 10px; text-align: -khtml-left; "><B style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 10px; font-weight: bold; text-align: -khtml-left; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 10px; font-weight: bold; text-align: -khtml-left; ">To:</SPAN></B><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 10px; text-align: -khtml-left; "> College and University Technicians</SPAN><BR style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 10px; text-align: -khtml-left; "><B style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 10px; font-weight: bold; text-align: -khtml-left; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 10px; font-weight: bold; text-align: -khtml-left; ">Subject:</SPAN></B><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 10px; text-align: -khtml-left; "> Re: [CAUT] Black on Black... (Jack alignment)</SPAN><BR style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 10px; text-align: -khtml-left; "></FONT><BR style="text-align: -khtml-left; "></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV><FONT face="Arial" size="2"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10px; ">Tim and Fred-</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT face="Arial" size="2"></FONT> </DIV><DIV><FONT face="Arial" size="2"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10px; ">Let's see. </SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT face="Arial" size="2"></FONT> </DIV><DIV><FONT face="Arial" size="2"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10px; ">You guys are disagreeing about the exact placement of 88 little sticks in a 900 pound box.</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT face="Arial" size="2"></FONT> </DIV><DIV><FONT face="Arial" size="2"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10px; ">By the time you're done with your adjustments, the result may be the same, or may even vary as much as .7mm!</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT face="Arial" size="2"></FONT> </DIV><DIV><FONT face="Arial" size="2"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10px; ">If there is a difference, probably 2 piano technicians in 300 could feel it, maybe 1 pianist in 300.</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT face="Arial" size="2"></FONT> </DIV><DIV><FONT face="Arial" size="2"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10px; ">Sounds like a good topic for a Blood Feud! ;-)</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT face="Arial" size="2"></FONT> </DIV><DIV><FONT face="Arial" size="2"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10px; ">When I think about the stuff other people do, I think we are pretty lucky to be worrying about jack/knuckle alignment.</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT face="Arial" size="2"></FONT> </DIV><DIV><FONT face="Arial" size="2"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10px; ">Anyway, I am grateful for folks who are so passionate about this work.</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT face="Arial" size="2"></FONT> </DIV><DIV><FONT face="Arial" size="2"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10px; ">Ed Sutton</SPAN></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></SPAN></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></DIV></BODY></HTML>