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<P><FONT size=2>|<BR>| 100% agreement on not reaming. What are reverse grip
pins?<BR>|<BR>| Thanks,<BR>| Jim Busby BYU<BR>|</P>
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<P><BR>| They're cut thread pins, like Denro. Salesmen who were trying<BR>| to
make the other guy's pianos (using these pins) look bad<BR>| would wrap a pin in
a silk scarf and show how it would turn<BR>| easily one direction and not in the
reverse. The pitch was<BR>| that these evil pins had *teeth* that would tear up
the block<BR>| in the competitor's product. The guys who's pianos had these<BR>|
pins used the same demo, illustrating how these pins resisted<BR>| turning
backward, and would therefore hold a tuning longer<BR>| without
"slipping". Neither happened in actual pianos, of<BR>| course, and the
*teeth* were just an incidental artifact of<BR>| the thread cutting. They
weren't planned at all, but just<BR>| came with the process.<BR>|<BR>| Is it
even possible to buy pressed or rolled thread pins any<BR>| more? The last I saw
were from APSCO, I think, long ago.<BR>| Guaranteed to snap and jump in pretty
much any block, mic'd<BR>| out of round, tapered, reverse tapered, and an
interesting<BR>| variety of diameters in every box. Wonderful things. I
think<BR>| maybe Kimball used pressed thread pins too.<BR>|<BR>| In any case,
it's cut threads for me.<BR>| Ron N</P>
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<P><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#000080 size=3>Ron is right about the
advantages of cut vs. rolled pins. But not about the marketing hype. At least as
I remember it the claim was made by some that the cut thread tuning pins helped
make the pianos using them stay in tune longer by not allowing the tuning pin to
slip backward which, as we all know, causes the piano to go out of tune.
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<P></FONT><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#000080>The first time I heard these
claims was back while I still worked for Baldwin (which, by then, was using
Nippon Denro cut-thread pins). Some sales and marketing people were touting the
supposed advantages of the "one-way" feature that was supposed to keep the piano
from going out of tune by locking the pin to the wood and thus not allowing the
pin to turn in the counter-clockwise direction. They were quite unhappy when I
pointed out that if these claims were actually true it really meant that the
tuner was basically destroying the pinblock each time the piano was tuned. He
(or she) did, of course, end up turning the tuning pin both directions during
the process of tuning. As Ron pointed out, none of this happened in the real
world.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#000080>Marketing is such a wonderful
thing.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#000080>Del</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=2>Delwin D Fandrich<BR>Piano Design & Manufacturing
Consultant<BR>620 South Tower Avenue<BR>Centralia, Washington 98531
USA<BR>Phone 360.736-7563<BR><<A
href="mailto:fandrich@pianobuilders.com">mailto:fandrich@pianobuilders.com</A>>
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