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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Jim-</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Could you send me, or perhaps post to CAUT, the
PureSound scale you use with an S & S M?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks!</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ed Sutton</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=jim_busby@byu.edu href="mailto:jim_busby@byu.edu">Jim Busby</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=caut@ptg.org
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, August 28, 2007 11:49
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CAUT] Scientific study -
Stainless wire (Help!)</DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Paul,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Here I thought I was
the only “crazy”, but I’m finding more people coming out of the stainless
closet! Peter Grey, back east, has done five Steinways, and we’ve done ten
here. Ed has used the wire for historical instruments. I know of a few others
who have done one or two.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I would really like
to know what pianos you have strung with stainless. Also, please let me know
your experience with the wire. I’ll be helping Juan with an article soon and
would like more input from other technicians.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I do have some old
wire. Good thought.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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caut-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Paul T Williams<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Tuesday, August 28, 2007 6:53
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w:st="on">College and University Technicians</st1:PersonName><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [CAUT] Scientific study -
Stainless wire (Help!)</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT face=sans-serif
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: sans-serif">I really like
this question as I have used only the stainless since coming to UNL. I
used Mapes in the "private" world for 15 years and wonder know why I didn't go
stainless sooner! </SPAN></FONT> <BR><BR><FONT face=sans-serif
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: sans-serif">Also,Jim,
do you have some old wire in the corner of the shop somewhere? Old
vs. new wire might be another study...</SPAN></FONT> <BR><BR><FONT
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: sans-serif">Best,</SPAN></FONT>
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size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Hi
Jurgen,</SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> </SPAN></FONT>
<BR><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">You’re right. I can’t
see why Americans don’t use it, except that they haven’t used it. I “went out
on a limb” and experimented with it on one piano. Now after about 3 years I’ll
use it EVERY time I can!</SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial color=navy
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> </SPAN></FONT>
<BR><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I think the tuning
stability has to do with the malleability that Daniel mentioned. It’s
absolutely amazing to me that it takes only two or three tunings on a newly
strung piano and it’s stable, ready to play without any “prepping” (bending,
etc.) Besides the stainless factor I think this is the biggest reason why I
use it. Instant stability. Good question. Thanks.</SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Jim Busby
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caut-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Jurgen Goering<B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"><BR>Sent:</SPAN></B> Monday, August 27, 2007 5:09
PM<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"><BR>To:</SPAN></B> caut@ptg.org<B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"><BR>Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [CAUT] Scientific study
- Stainless wire (Help!)</SPAN></FONT> <BR> <BR>Hello Jim, <BR>this
sounds like a very worthwhile, interesting, and for me, exciting prospect.
<BR> <BR>As a believer in stainless wire for many different situations
and applications, I am surprised it is so slow to get recognition in
<st1:place w:st="on">North America</st1:place>. <BR> <BR>Among the
things you mention, I wonder if there is any way to study how and why
stainless wire attains such a high degree of tuning stability. <BR>
<BR><FONT size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Jurgen Goering
</SPAN></FONT><BR><FONT size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Piano Forte
Supply </SPAN></FONT><BR><FONT size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">(250)
754-2440 </SPAN></FONT><BR><FONT size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">info@pianofortesupply.com </SPAN></FONT><BR><FONT
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">http://www.pianofortesupply.com
</SPAN></FONT><BR><FONT size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> </SPAN></FONT> <BR> <BR>On Aug 27, 2007,
at 14:48, Jim Busby wrote: <BR><FONT face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">List,</SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> </SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">We (BYU) finally are ready to do some scientific
studies of stainless wire. This will be conducted by Physics
professors/students here at BYU. Could any of you help me pose some
“questions”, “queries” or whatever you want to call it, for these
studies?</SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> </SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">One of our student piano technicians is doing his
senior project and his professors (who we’ve bugged for years) are just now
getting excited about this.</SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> </SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Here are some things I’ve thought of;</SPAN></FONT>
<BR><FONT face=Arial><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> </SPAN></FONT>
<BR><FONT size=4><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt">1 </SPAN></FONT><FONT
face=Arial><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">What are the actual differences in
sound between stainless and Mapes or Roslau? (Spectrum, etc.)</SPAN></FONT>
<BR><FONT size=4><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt">2 </SPAN></FONT><FONT
face=Arial><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">What are the differences in
inharmonicity between the two?</SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT size=4><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt">3 </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">(how?) Do bass strings with stainless core sound
different than other core?</SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT size=4><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt">4 </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">etc….</SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> </SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Jim Ellis, others, I’d really like some input on
this. We have our ducks in a row so now is the time.</SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT
face=Arial><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> </SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT
face=Arial><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Thanks,</SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT
face=Arial><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Jim Busby BYU</SPAN></FONT>
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