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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Since Juan made the scale I’m not
sure if he’d want me to share it with CAUT, but I’ll ask him. He’ll
probably be fine with it. People need to understand that size 15 Pure Sound can’t
be switched indiscriminately with, say, size 15 Mapes. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>It’s at home, I’ll sent it to
you.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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caut-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b><st1:PersonName w:st="on">Ed Sutton</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, August 28, 2007
10:02 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">College
and University Technicians</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [CAUT] Scientific
study - Stainless wire (Help!)</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Could you send me, or perhaps post to CAUT, the PureSound
scale you use with an S & S M?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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font-family:Arial'>Thanks!</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><st1:PersonName w:st="on"><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Ed Sutton</span></font></st1:PersonName><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:#E4E4E4'><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:jim_busby@byu.edu" title="jim_busby@byu.edu">Jim Busby</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:caut@ptg.org" title="caut@ptg.org">College and University
Technicians</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Tuesday, August
28, 2007 11:49 AM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Re: [CAUT]
Scientific study - Stainless wire (Help!)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Paul,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Here I thought I was the only
“crazy”, but I’m finding more people coming out of the
stainless closet! Peter Grey, back east, has done five Steinways, and
we’ve done ten here. Ed has used the wire for historical instruments. I
know of a few others who have done one or two.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I would really like to know what pianos
you have strung with stainless. Also, please let me know your experience with
the wire. I’ll be helping Juan with an article soon and would like more
input from other technicians.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I do have some old wire. Good thought.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Thanks.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Jim Busby<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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caut-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Paul T Williams<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, August 28, 2007
6:53 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">College
and University Technicians</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [CAUT] Scientific
study - Stainless wire (Help!)</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></font><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial'>I really like this question as I have used only the stainless since
coming to UNL. I used Mapes in the "private" world for 15 years
and wonder know why I didn't go stainless sooner! </span></font> <br>
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<font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Also,Jim,
do you have some old wire in the corner of the shop somewhere? Old
vs. new wire might be another study...</span></font> <br>
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<font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Best,</span></font>
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<font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Paul</span></font>
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<font size=1 face=Arial><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial'>Sent
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<p><font size=1 face=Arial><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial'>08/27/2007
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=1 face=Arial><span style='font-size:7.5pt;
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</span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hi Jurgen,</span></font> <br>
<font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'> </span></font> <br>
<font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'>You’re right. I can’t see why Americans
don’t use it, except that they haven’t used it. I “went out on
a limb” and experimented with it on one piano. Now after about 3 years
I’ll use it EVERY time I can!</span></font> <br>
<font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'> </span></font> <br>
<font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'>I think the tuning stability has to do with the malleability
that Daniel mentioned. It’s absolutely amazing to me that it takes only
two or three tunings on a newly strung piano and it’s stable, ready to
play without any “prepping” (bending, etc.) Besides the stainless
factor I think this is the biggest reason why I use it. Instant stability. Good
question. Thanks.</span></font> <br>
<font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'> </span></font> <br>
<font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'>Jim Busby BYU</span></font> <br>
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font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> caut-bounces@ptg.org
[mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Jurgen
Goering<b><span style='font-weight:bold'><br>
Sent:</span></b> Monday, August 27, 2007 5:09 PM<b><span style='font-weight:
bold'><br>
To:</span></b> caut@ptg.org<b><span style='font-weight:bold'><br>
Subject:</span></b> Re: [CAUT] Scientific study - Stainless wire (Help!)</span></font>
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Hello Jim, <br>
this sounds like a very worthwhile, interesting, and for me, exciting prospect.
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As a believer in stainless wire for many different situations and applications,
I am surprised it is so slow to get recognition in <st1:place w:st="on">North
America</st1:place>. <br>
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Among the things you mention, I wonder if there is any way to study how and why
stainless wire attains such a high degree of tuning stability. <br>
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<font size=2><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Jurgen Goering </span></font><br>
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On Aug 27, 2007, at 14:48, Jim Busby wrote: <br>
<font face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'>List,</span></font> <br>
<font face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'> </span></font> <br>
<font face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'>We (BYU) finally are ready to
do some scientific studies of stainless wire. This will be conducted by Physics
professors/students here at BYU. Could any of you help me pose some
“questions”, “queries” or whatever you want to call it,
for these studies?</span></font> <br>
<font face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'> </span></font> <br>
<font face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'>One of our student piano
technicians is doing his senior project and his professors (who we’ve
bugged for years) are just now getting excited about this.</span></font> <br>
<font face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'> </span></font> <br>
<font face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'>Here are some things
I’ve thought of;</span></font> <br>
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<font size=4><span style='font-size:13.5pt'>1 </span></font><font face=Arial><span
style='font-family:Arial'>What are the actual differences in sound between stainless
and Mapes or Roslau? (Spectrum, etc.)</span></font> <br>
<font size=4><span style='font-size:13.5pt'>2 </span></font><font face=Arial><span
style='font-family:Arial'>What are the differences in inharmonicity between the
two?</span></font> <br>
<font size=4><span style='font-size:13.5pt'>3 </span></font><font face=Arial><span
style='font-family:Arial'>(how?) Do bass strings with stainless core sound
different than other core?</span></font> <br>
<font size=4><span style='font-size:13.5pt'>4 </span></font><font face=Arial><span
style='font-family:Arial'>etc….</span></font> <br>
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<font face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'>Jim Ellis, others, I’d
really like some input on this. We have our ducks in a row so now is the time.</span></font>
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<font face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'>Thanks,</span></font> <br>
<font face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'>Jim Busby BYU</span></font> <o:p></o:p></p>
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