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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Fred, Those were made special for you. Always
wondered if you liked them. Now know.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>Joe Goss RPT<BR>Mother Goose Tools<BR><A
href="mailto:imatunr@srvinet.com">imatunr@srvinet.com</A><BR><A
href="http://www.mothergoosetools.com">www.mothergoosetools.com</A></DIV>
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<A title=fssturm@unm.edu href="mailto:fssturm@unm.edu">Fred Sturm</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=caut@ptg.org
href="mailto:caut@ptg.org">College and University Technicians</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, September 11, 2007 10:31
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CAUT] center pinning
changes/ long pin method</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Hi Jim,
<DIV><SPAN class=Apple-tab-span style="WHITE-SPACE: pre"></SPAN>Can you
describe the long pin method? We discussed something along those lines on this
list a while back, but I never got all the details. I understand one is using
pins long enough to go through several flanges, but I'm not clear how exactly
one proceeds. Does the whole length of the long pin get pushed through the
bird's eye of each flange? That seems awfully cumbersome and potentially a bit
destructive.</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=Apple-tab-span style="WHITE-SPACE: pre"></SPAN>Joe Goss has
long burnishers - very long as in a meter or so - for all American sizes of
pins, and those can be used as you describe for pulling through the bushing. I
must say I am a bit skeptical about the idea that it makes much difference
doing the pulling in one direction, but maybe you're right.</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=Apple-tab-span style="WHITE-SPACE: pre"></SPAN> In
burnishing center felt, it seems to me that the burnisher is going to be
pressing against the felt hard enough that fibers wouldn't be able to move
around, at least significantly. At this point in my own work I mostly do a
rapid back and forth action, fast enough and enough of them to create a good
bit of heat. (You can get heat pulling the burnisher through all the way
rapidly, but I think I get more heat faster by doing back and forth, as
the metal of the burnisher heats up). That seems to set the felt quite nicely.
And it seems to be possible to move up a half size to a full size just using
burnishing action without removing any felt, just the ironing action. I
haven't been doing it this way long enough to have a good sense for longevity
and whatnot, but it seems to be good so far. Certainly makes sense, as long as
the felt in the bushings doesn't swell later, maybe due to humidity rise, and
make the centers sluggish, and I haven't found that in university pianos,
which get quite a bit of use. Of course I am dealing with my own humidity
environment, which is typically 10% to 60% range. <BR>
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<DIV>Regards,</DIV>
<DIV>Fred Sturm</DIV>
<DIV>University of New Mexico</DIV>
<DIV><A href="mailto:fssturm@unm.edu">fssturm@unm.edu</A></DIV>
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<DIV>On Sep 10, 2007, at 12:48 PM, Jim Busby wrote:</DIV><BR
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<P style="MARGIN: 0px"><FONT style="FONT: 12px Helvetica" face=Helvetica
size=3>Hi Ted,</FONT></P>
<P style="MIN-HEIGHT: 14px; MARGIN: 0px; FONT: 12px Helvetica"><BR></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0px"><FONT style="FONT: 12px Helvetica" face=Helvetica
size=3>Just some feedback on the "long pinning method" you mention
below</FONT></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0px"><FONT style="FONT: 12px Helvetica" face=Helvetica
size=3>(Thanks Jurgen!). I have been doing this for quite a while now and
it</FONT></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0px"><FONT style="FONT: 12px Helvetica" face=Helvetica
size=3>seems to have much more longevity and be more stable than other
methods.</FONT></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0px"><FONT style="FONT: 12px Helvetica" face=Helvetica
size=3>I think it is because the long pin pulls one direction through
the</FONT></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0px"><FONT style="FONT: 12px Helvetica" face=Helvetica
size=3>center, thus "combing" the fibers in one direction and packing them
in</FONT></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0px"><FONT style="FONT: 12px Helvetica" face=Helvetica
size=3>tight. When I use other back and forth burnishing techniques and
"shake</FONT></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0px"><FONT style="FONT: 12px Helvetica" face=Helvetica
size=3>down" the parts the grams may go from say 5 to 4 or 3 until they
become</FONT></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0px"><FONT style="FONT: 12px Helvetica" face=Helvetica
size=3>immovable. With the long pinning method there is no "shaking
down"</FONT></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0px"><FONT style="FONT: 12px Helvetica" face=Helvetica
size=3>necessary or possible. Either way is good and can be done to
perfection,</FONT></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0px"><FONT style="FONT: 12px Helvetica" face=Helvetica
size=3>but this "European way" is becoming my preferred method because of
this</FONT></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0px"><FONT style="FONT: 12px Helvetica" face=Helvetica
size=3>instant and permanent stability and better longevity. Better
Longevity</FONT></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0px"><FONT style="FONT: 12px Helvetica" face=Helvetica
size=3>means that I repin about every 3-4 years instead of every 2-3 years.
It</FONT></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0px"><FONT style="FONT: 12px Helvetica" face=Helvetica
size=3>may be even better than that because I'm at about 4 years since
I</FONT></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0px"><FONT style="FONT: 12px Helvetica" face=Helvetica
size=3>started using the method and some are still good!</FONT></P>
<P style="MIN-HEIGHT: 14px; MARGIN: 0px; FONT: 12px Helvetica"><BR></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0px"><FONT style="FONT: 12px Helvetica" face=Helvetica
size=3>Regards,</FONT></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0px"><FONT style="FONT: 12px Helvetica" face=Helvetica
size=3>Jim Busby
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