<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; "><BR><DIV><DIV>On Oct 9, 2007, at 1:16 PM, Jim Busby wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">Here at BYU they estimate the</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">benefits "package" at $17,000.00 per year. That would make the</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">$39,000.00 salary actually be $56,000.00.<BR></FONT></P></BLOCKQUOTE><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>That all depends on the employee contribution.</DIV><BR><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica"> While that's not "enough" for</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">me,<BR></FONT></P></BLOCKQUOTE><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>You certainly couldn't support a family on that in our market without some sort of supplement (government assistance, moonlighting, etc.) and we're "supposed" to have a low cost of living. Sure is high where the school districts are good, though, and it's a heck of a lot higher than where my wife and I grew up.</DIV><BR><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica"> it might be a fairly average wage in the United States, and maybe</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">shouldn't be dismissed as total nonsense.</FONT></P> </BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR><DIV>I gotta believe Michigan would be one of the more expensive states to live in.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>We must discourage looking at each other's salary packages in comparison and look to the local market.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Average tuning price x 20 tuning equivalents per week x 44 weeks per year ought to get you in the neighborhood of the total salary package including bennies and leave.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Then you have to ask yourself if you want to pay for your transportation, tools, phone, maybe even part of your housing expenses, etc., before or after taxes. Do you want to pay FICA and have income taxes withheld on your gross or net earnings?</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><BR><BR><DIV> <SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><DIV>Jeff Tanner, RPT</DIV><DIV>University of South Carolina</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"></SPAN> </DIV><BR></BODY></HTML>