<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; "><BR><DIV><DIV>On Oct 11, 2007, at 2:34 PM, Jim Busby wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy; color: rgb(0, 0, 128); font-size: 13.3333px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 128); font-family: Arial; font-size: 13.3333px; ">Jeff,</SPAN><O:P style="color: rgb(0, 0, 128); font-family: Arial; font-size: 13.3333px; "></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy; color: rgb(0, 0, 128); font-size: 13.3333px; "><O:P style="color: rgb(0, 0, 128); font-family: Arial; font-size: 13.3333px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 128); font-family: Arial; font-size: 13.3333px; "> <SPAN style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy; color: rgb(0, 0, 128); font-size: 13.3333px; ">I’m beginning to understand better the PTG position of a CAUT Credential being for <SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="text-decoration: underline;">RPTs only</SPAN>. While personally I would like to involve non PTG CAUTs somehow I think it would be a fatal error for PTG to allow it. Once a “back door” is opened it can never be shut. (IMO)</SPAN></SPAN></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"></SPAN></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR><DIV>Hi Jim,</DIV><DIV>Absolutely. I understand that too. PTG couldn't survive any other way. But at the same time it severely damages our credibility. We're selling our product, but in reality it is like saying a Yamaha is better than a Kawai or vice versa. That is why I have my doubts it will ever work. We can only offer our alternative that is PTG endorsed.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Best case scenario, it will be adopted and fully accepted as THE standard. But we have a long way to go, as long as the institutions our faculties see as the model don't even hire PTG members and fare quite well without PTG's meddling. We have a big selling job to do that will have to overcome our own self serving interests to prove superior to other alternatives.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>I think the RPT track is extremely valuable, especially for people like me, who took the unorthodox "mentored" route rather than tech school or correspondence course path. The RPT exams basically verify that our skills are good enough, maybe not congruent with those who were trained through other more structured programs, but good enough. What we learn on the job is what seasons any of us, and I'm not sure we can devise a one size fits all test for that.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Jeff</DIV></BODY></HTML>