<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=windows-1252"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.6000.16546" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY style="WORD-WRAP: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space" bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Jeff!</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Did you attend this year's annual in Kansas City?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>PTG has amazing resources!  I can't imagine any other organization in the hemisphere that could bring together such a range of teachers and resources.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The factory schools are great, but they are only going to teach how to tune,regulate and voice that company's pianos.  CAUT work involves so much more than just tuning, regulating and voicing.  The only place I know where people can get together and share about all the other stuff is right here: PTG and CAUT!</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>It will take planning, organizing, and especially creating ways to inform administrators of what a good CAUT has to offer.  I think a change can be made if we keep plugging at it.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>By the way, just for comparison, the Steinway marketing campaign is well known in market studies.  It began just after the Civil War, and is the longest running unified marketing campaign in history.  Many of the Steinway "themes" go back over a hundred years.  They never contradict themselves, and they keep saying the same phrases over and over.  People in the Soviet Union in 1970 knew the Steinway name, and knew it was "the piano of the Immortals."  That's marketing!</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>PTG should learn from it.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ed Sutton</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=jtanner@mozart.sc.edu href="mailto:jtanner@mozart.sc.edu">Jeff Tanner</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=caut@ptg.org href="mailto:caut@ptg.org">College and University Technicians</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, October 11, 2007 4:22 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CAUT] Job Opening, U. of Michigan, Ann Arbor</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><BR> <DIV> <DIV>On Oct 11, 2007, at 2:34 PM, Jim Busby wrote:</DIV><BR class=Apple-interchange-newline> <BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><SPAN class=Apple-style-span style="WORD-SPACING: 0px; FONT: 12px Helvetica; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); TEXT-INDENT: 0px; WHITE-SPACE: normal; LETTER-SPACING: normal; BORDER-COLLAPSE: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; orphans: 2; widows: 2"> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 13px; COLOR: rgb(0,0,128); FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><SPAN class=Apple-style-span style="FONT-SIZE: 13px; COLOR: rgb(0,0,128); FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Jeff,</SPAN><O:P style="FONT-SIZE: 13px; COLOR: rgb(0,0,128); FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 13px; COLOR: rgb(0,0,128); FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><O:P style="FONT-SIZE: 13px; COLOR: rgb(0,0,128); FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><SPAN class=Apple-style-span style="FONT-SIZE: 13px; COLOR: rgb(0,0,128); FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 13px; COLOR: rgb(0,0,128); FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I’m beginning to understand better the PTG position of a CAUT Credential being for <SPAN class=Apple-style-span style="TEXT-DECORATION: underline">RPTs only</SPAN>. While personally I would like to involve non PTG CAUTs somehow I think it would be a fatal error for PTG to allow it. Once a “back door” is opened it can never be shut. (IMO)</SPAN></SPAN></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><BR class=Apple-interchange-newline></SPAN></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR> <DIV>Hi Jim,</DIV> <DIV>Absolutely.  I understand that too. PTG couldn't survive any other way.  But at the same time it severely damages our credibility.  We're selling our product, but in reality it is like saying a Yamaha is better than a Kawai or vice versa.  That is why I have my doubts it will ever work.  We can only offer our alternative that is PTG endorsed.</DIV> <DIV><BR class=khtml-block-placeholder></DIV> <DIV>Best case scenario, it will be adopted and fully accepted as THE standard.  But we have a long way to go, as long as the institutions our faculties see as the model don't even hire PTG members and fare quite well without PTG's meddling.  We have a big selling job to do that will have to overcome our own self serving interests to prove superior to other alternatives.</DIV> <DIV><BR class=khtml-block-placeholder></DIV> <DIV>I think the RPT track is extremely valuable, especially for people like me, who took the unorthodox "mentored" route rather than tech school or correspondence course path.  The RPT exams basically verify that our skills are good enough, maybe not congruent with those who were trained through other more structured programs, but good enough.  What we learn on the job is what seasons any of us, and I'm not sure we can devise a one size fits all test for that.</DIV> <DIV><BR class=khtml-block-placeholder></DIV> <DIV>Jeff</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>