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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Paul-</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>You might contact Rolf von Walthausen for the happy
story of the revival of an SD-10 at Interlochen.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sometimes reality wins!</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ed Sutton</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=jajones2@wisc.edu href="mailto:jajones2@wisc.edu">Joel A. Jones</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=caut@ptg.org
href="mailto:caut@ptg.org">College and University Technicians</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, October 12, 2007 9:29
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CAUT] Backfire!!</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Paul, <BR><BR>The replacement parts you are looking to use I
agree are <BR>and highly recommend. However, what is holding you back<BR>from
following your piano department head's 'suggestion'?<BR><BR>I think many CAUTs
have had this situation. It's political in <BR>my book, not technical. No
doubt you can make this piano<BR>into a wonderful instrument rivaling any
piano in your <BR>inventory. Take off the fallboard, put tape across the
decal, <BR>do a blind, behind the screen test, it still does not make a
<BR>pianist like the piano any better than before - in my experience.
<BR><BR><BR>If you replace the parts why do you think that will light a fire
to <BR>rebuild the piano any faster than following the advice of <BR>your
piano head? <BR><BR>My advice; count the votes, get everyone in the School on
the<BR>same page, and if it's no - it's no.<BR><BR>Joel<BR><BR>Joel Jones,
RPT<BR>Madison, WI <BR>On Oct 12, 2007, at 7:53 AM, Paul T Williams
wrote:<BR><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR><?smaller><?x-tad-smaller>David,<?/x-tad-smaller><?/smaller></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR><?smaller><?x-tad-smaller>I am in Lincoln, NE and the
nearest rebuilder is southeast of KC...about 3.5 hours! Richard West
took care of this piano for many many years and he and I talk quite a bit.
He says the board and bridges should be replaced, but the head of the
piano dept told me "don't put any money into it and sell it!" Since it
isn't a soloist instrument and only used by orchestras, choirs, etc., I may
settle somewhere in the middle and replace the action and restring it.
I think I will use Wurzen hammers and Arledge bass strings and at
least get it somewhat respected until we can replace it someday. I
doubt very much that the director would approve much more than that. I can
guarantee he won't approve a total rebuild. I'm hoping this will light
a fire under his seat to increase efforts to get funding for a new concert
instrument. I'm not a big Baldwin fan and have only come across a
couple I would like to have...Some folks really love Baldwins, but
unfortunately, non of the piano faculty or grad students do.<?/x-tad-smaller><?/smaller></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR><?smaller><?x-tad-smaller>We'll see what transpires....<?/x-tad-smaller><?/smaller></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR><?smaller><?x-tad-smaller>Thanks<?/x-tad-smaller><?/smaller></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR><?smaller><?x-tad-smaller>Paul<?/x-tad-smaller><?/smaller></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><B><?smaller><?smaller><?x-tad-smaller>"David
Ilvedson"
<ilvey@sbcglobal.net><?/x-tad-smaller><?/smaller><?/smaller></B><?smaller><?smaller><?x-tad-smaller>
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<BLOCKQUOTE><BR><?smaller><?smaller><?x-tad-smaller>Sent by:
caut-bounces@ptg.org<?/x-tad-smaller><?/smaller><?/smaller></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR><?smaller><?smaller><?x-tad-smaller>10/10/2007 06:07 PM<?/x-tad-smaller><?/smaller><?/smaller></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR><?smaller><?smaller><?x-tad-smaller>Please respond to<?/x-tad-smaller><?/smaller><?/smaller></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR><?smaller><?smaller><?x-tad-smaller>ilvey@sbcglobal.net;
Please respond to<?/x-tad-smaller><?/smaller><?/smaller></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR><?smaller><?smaller><?x-tad-smaller>College and University
Technicians
<caut@ptg.org><?/x-tad-smaller><?/smaller><?/smaller></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR><?smaller><?smaller><?x-tad-smaller>To<?/x-tad-smaller><?/smaller><?/smaller></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR><?smaller><?smaller><?x-tad-smaller>caut@ptg.org<?/x-tad-smaller><?/smaller><?/smaller></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR><?smaller><?smaller><?x-tad-smaller>cc<?/x-tad-smaller><?/smaller><?/smaller></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR><?smaller><?smaller><?x-tad-smaller>Subject<?/x-tad-smaller><?/smaller><?/smaller></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR><?smaller><?smaller><?x-tad-smaller>Re: [CAUT] Backfire!!<?/x-tad-smaller><?/smaller><?/smaller></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>Paul, <BR><BR>Have the Baldwin
soundboard etc. checked out by the local rebuilder wizard. Who would
that be in your area? Maybe you? Where are you located?
Even if it needs a new soundboard and you can't get the money together
for that, a complete action rebuild will certainly bring it up to a good
rehearsal instrument. Keeping the D locked up except for concerts
can't be bad...Down the road, when funds become available...rebuild the
piano...a first class rebuild will turn that into a rival for the D, but the
D will still get used more...;-] <BR><BR>Man, I wish I had your
problems..David Ilvedson, RPTPacifica, CA 94044 <BR><BR>Original
messageFrom: "Paul T Williams" To: caut@ptg.orgReceived: 10/10/2007
6:41:18 AMSubject: [CAUT] Backfire!! <BR><BR><?smaller><?x-tad-smaller>Hi
List,<?/x-tad-smaller><?/smaller></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><?smaller><?x-tad-smaller>Have you ever had one of those days???<?/x-tad-smaller><?/smaller></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><?smaller><?x-tad-smaller>In our main concert hall we have a
Steinway D and a 1950's Baldwin D. The Baldwin belongs to the Lied
Center for Performing Arts. They are, but aren't part of the
university. This piano has been on "permanent loan" to the university for
many years... Anywho, I commented to the Music Director that the
Baldwin is in dire need of major work (all original, I think except for
stringing) .I asked him to have the manager of the Lied center to consider
investing in it. It needs EVERYTHING! The manager turns around and
gives it to us! He has no budget and doesn't want it back. We
really don't want it and the director is trying to find funds for a new
Steinway (NY or Hamburg). Nobody likes this piano and faculty pout if
they're "forced" to play it. It's used a lot, but for non-university
events held in our hall, so pulling it out of service for major work would
be tricky<?/x-tad-smaller><?/smaller></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><?smaller><?x-tad-smaller>Questions:<?/x-tad-smaller><?/smaller></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><?smaller><?x-tad-smaller>1. Does this piano have
potential to be a great instrument?<?/x-tad-smaller><?/smaller></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><?smaller><?x-tad-smaller>2. Is it worth putting thousands
of dollars into it? or- might it be wiser to replace action, restring,
etc. just minimal work until funding magically arrives for a new Steinway?<?/x-tad-smaller><?/smaller></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><?smaller><?x-tad-smaller>3. Has anyone else fallen into
such a thing?<?/x-tad-smaller><?/smaller></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><?smaller><?x-tad-smaller>Thanks!<?/x-tad-smaller><?/smaller></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><?smaller><?x-tad-smaller>Paul T. Williams RPT<?/x-tad-smaller><?/smaller></BLOCKQUOTE>
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