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<DIV><SPAN class=671411722-13102007><FONT face=Arial size=2>Les, here is the
direct link to the Guidelines page on the CAUT site:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=671411722-13102007><FONT face=Arial size=2><A
href="http://www.ptg.org/caut.php/guidlines_pg.htm">http://www.ptg.org/caut.php/guidlines_pg.htm</A></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=671411722-13102007><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=671411722-13102007><FONT face=Arial size=2>and here is one to
the Guidelines themselves:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=671411722-13102007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><A
href="http://www.ptg.org/caut.php/Guidelines/guidelines.pdf">http://www.ptg.org/caut.php/Guidelines/guidelines.pdf</A></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=671411722-13102007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=671411722-13102007><FONT face=Arial size=2>The home office also
sells a nicely printed version that would be more impressive as a
stand alone document.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=671411722-13102007><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=671411722-13102007><FONT face=Arial size=2>While some might
have experienced some benefit to administrators reading this themselves, I've
had the most success using it in combination with a custom document or
presentation based on what I think the situation is currently, and what will be
most beneficial for the school. I've used a lot of the info from the
guidelines to build my cases. I also include the entire document so
they can see it for themselves if they want to. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=671411722-13102007><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=671411722-13102007><FONT face=Arial size=2>Don is right.
This document is very useful, and it has been very helpful to me and many
others, but it's not something you can plop down on a desk and expect it to make
a big difference without backing it up with your own professional evaluation of
the pianos and needs of the institution.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=671411722-13102007><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=671411722-13102007><FONT face=Arial size=2>PTG has been great
for me, and owe a lot to members that helped me out directly, as well as
conference presentations and seminars I've attended. All very worth while.
I've also learned a great deal from some very excellent technicians that
were not members. It's not that PTG members are better technicians so much as
that many are committed to helping others becoming better technicians,
and interested in the opportunities for bettering themselves and the profession.
That says a lot, but it's not bottom line.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=671411722-13102007><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=671411722-13102007><FONT face=Arial size=2>I think PTG
membership carries a little weight with faculty and administrators in that they
like to see a commitment to the education process, and value their own
experiences in similar organizations. And, while they're looking for more
than minimal competency, it's nice to know that an applicant has at least that!
Most will know better than to think that RPT means more than that.
They'll also know the limitations of a CAUT credential of some sort, but may
likewise appreciate what it does mean, more focused competency, and a commitment
to developing special skills for a school setting. That commitment means a lot
and my guess is that it will bump an applicant up to an interview out of a pool
of applicants. It may even be something that schools start to look for and
advertise.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=671411722-13102007><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=671411722-13102007><FONT face=Arial size=2>We all know great
techs who are not members, and terrible techs that are. School administrators
know this kind of thing exists because they run into it with faculty all the
time.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=671411722-13102007><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=671411722-13102007><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks to the
committee and others for all the hard work on the Guidelines, and developing the
credential. I think it's a definite step in the right
direction.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=671411722-13102007><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=671411722-13102007><FONT face=Arial size=2>In pianos,
Scott</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<P><FONT size=2>Scott E. Thile, RPT<BR>Piano/Instrument
Technician<BR>---------------------------<BR>Dept. of Music, Murray State
University<BR>504 Fine Arts Building, Murray, KY 42071<BR>Office Phone:
270-809-4396<BR><A
href="http://campus.murraystate.edu/staff/scott.thile/index.html">http://campus.murraystate.edu/staff/scott.thile/index.html</A><BR></FONT></P></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
caut-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Leslie
Bartlett<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, October 13, 2007 4:45 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
'College and University Technicians'<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CAUT] Guidelines,
CAUT, PTG<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=261133421-13102007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>From an ignorant: Are the guidelines on the
PTG site? I have a little college account, and they're open to at least
consider becoming educated. there's a chance to start and grow something
which will serve them well in the future.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=261133421-13102007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>thanks</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=261133421-13102007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>les bartlett</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> caut-bounces@ptg.org
[mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Donald
McKechnie<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, October 13, 2007 12:55 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
caut@ptg.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> [CAUT] Guidelines, CAUT,
PTG<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">This just needs to be said yet again; The Guidelines
document is a great tool for CAUT's, and all, to use. It is not the end all
and be all. Each situation is different. Use it wisely and to your best
advantage. One does not just drop the Guidelines into the lap of an
administrator and expect them to see the light. More often it is a matter of
plugging away year after year (much like Barbara) until things get done. I
believe using the Guidelines in the documentation you present will help in
some small or large way. </DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">I have been plugging away here at IC to get the
maintenance program up to where it needs to be. No, I have not succeeded
completely. There is still much to accomplish. But, if I look back at where
this program was when I first arrived there have been many successes thanks in
part to the Guidelines. If it does not work for you, well, we
tried. There is one thing I am certain about; this publication has helped
many in one way or another.</DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">This is an exciting time in the history of the CAUT
committee. What we are up to right now is the seed of tremendous potential.
All we ask is that you keep an open mind and hopefully the thought that a bit
of change is healthy. (Change is inevitable in life, regardless of how much we
fight it. :-) By all means, let's continue debate. This will also lead to
greater understanding. </DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Please keep in mind that once PTG has a firm set of
policies, etc. regarding CAUT, then it is time to market to academia in a
greater way than what we have been doing. If you take the time to look you
will see we have made some inroads already. For several years now the CAUT
committee has attended and presented at the College Music Society conventions.
There have been PTG booths regularly at MTNA conventions. Although NASM tries
to ignore our message, they keep hearing from us. We have sent out many
mailings with information. There is a foothold in place if you look. Yep, it
is going to take time to arrive at an even greater visibility but in the end
we on the CAUT committee feel academia, for the most part, will understand
what we are all about. And just maybe, a bigger salary!</DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">We are still a work in progress here at IC. It would
be great if I can see everything I want before it is time to leave. The
reality is that this may not happen. Many of us who have served on the CAUT
committee over the years share a deep commitment to improve the piano
maintenance programs across academia. It has been a long haul since 1987 but
again, look back and you can see a lot of success. Happy 20th to CAUT!</DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">As stated above, I may not see the full fruits of all
this effort. If that is to be, so what. There is pleasure knowing I fought the
good fight and may have helped others, and my successor, along the way. If one
wants to just complain and not join the effort to change that's your decision.
If that is the case, be happy. We hope you will join or at least support the
efforts to expand the PTG. It is going to take some time but in the end I have
no doubt it will have been worth it. </DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">This past week I had the privilege of hearing one of
the happiest people in the world give a lecture here at IC. The Dalia Lama of
Tibet cannot even return to his own country yet this is one happy guy! I try
my best to learn from folks like him on what it means to be content with what
I have. But at the same time, being happy is not enough. Seeking knowledge is
always key in the teachings of people like the Dalia Lama. PTG has made me
(and many, many others) a happy camper. All the resources it provides for
knowledge and understanding in our profession is astounding at times. If one
chooses not to partake it is truly their loss.</DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Regards,</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Don</DIV>
<DIV style="MIN-HEIGHT: 17px; MARGIN: 0px; FONT: 14px Helvetica"><BR></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">P.S. Whoa! What a segue from The Dalia Lama to PTG!
:-))</DIV><BR>
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