<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span">These are all good ideas. I have another that is very easy to try first. Us bicyclists are familiar with a product known as "white lightning". It is a waxy chain lube. It is designed to soak into the chain and <SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="text-decoration: underline;">coat the pins</SPAN> and then dry, leaving the wax behind. One treatment is almost always successful. Wipe with a cloth or tissue or paper towel after. Try not to let it drip too much, though the solvents don't seem to touch the finish. A second try is worth the very little time and expense. If there's still noise, look for other things--there are supposed to be rubber buttons on the backside of the lip, e.g.</SPAN><DIV><SPAN class="Apple-style-span">If there is <SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="text-decoration: underline;">still</SPAN> noise, and you're sure it's the hinges, then disassemble them, etc.</SPAN></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><SPAN class="Apple-style-span">Doug</SPAN></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><SPAN class="Apple-style-span"><BR><DIV><DIV>On Oct 15, 2007, at 1:14 PM, Fred S Sturm wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Hi David,</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">My standard procedure is to remove each hinge in turn, remove the hinge pin, make two bends in directions at 90 degrees from one another using damper wire bender at points about 1/3 along the pin (subtle but significant bends), dip the pin in linseed oil, replace. So far this had worked. Until I started doing this to every single hinge and pin, I kept getting recurrence of the problem.</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">I'll add a detail about doing this efficiently: remove the whole flap from the fall by removing those hinge screws first (use an electric screwdriver), and then take the flap back to the shop where I have a vise and punch to remove the pins, and a small vial of linseed oil. Can you tell I've done this a few times <G>? Also, I make sure each hinge feels hard to oopen/close. If not, I take it apart and bend a wee bit more.</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Regards,</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Fred Sturm</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">University of New Mexico</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 10:32:49 -0500</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>"Porritt, David" <<A href="mailto:dporritt@mail.smu.edu">dporritt@mail.smu.edu</A>> wrote:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">I have a "D" here with a fall board hinged front that I can't get to</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">stop buzzing.<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>I took it off and bent the hinge pins to make them very</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">tight and it still buzzed.<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>I finally broke down and ordered new hinges</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">from Steinway and it still buzzes.<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>If you move it out of its</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">hanging-straight-down position it stops but there's no guarantee that it</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">will stay there.<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>I've contemplated taking the thing off, but that will</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">leave 12 ugly holes where the hinge screws had been. I've even</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">contemplated gluing it on straight out like the smaller pianos.<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>Any suggestions??? dp</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">_________________________</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">David M. Porritt, RPT</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Meadows School of the Arts</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Southern Methodist University</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Dallas, TX 75275</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Phone 214 768-3976</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><A href="mailto:dporritt@smu.edu">dporritt@smu.edu</A></DIV> </BLOCKQUOTE><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV> </BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></SPAN></DIV></BODY></HTML>