<div>-----Original Message-----<br> From: Israel Stein <custos3@comcast.net><br> To: caut@ptg.org<br> Sent: Sun, Oct 21 11:08 AM<br> Subject: [CAUT] Uniform Formal Education<br> <br> <Ah, yes, Cy. You have introduced a very important principle into this discussion. "Uniform" does not mean "one-dimensional". It is the height of folly to think that in order to get to a uniform educational standard one needs to teach "a uniform way of tuning: how to sit, hold the hammer, even setting a temperament" as somebody here seems to be advocating. That's nonsense. <br>  <br> snip</div> <div style="FONT-SIZE: 12px; MARGIN: 0px; COLOR: #000; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, Sans-Serif; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff"> <br> In my opinion, one of the bigger problem with much of the instruction offered by the PTG - in classes, chapter meetings, some of the publications - is precisely this "one size fits all" mentality.> </div> <div style="FONT-SIZE: 12px; MARGIN: 0px; COLOR: #000; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, Sans-Serif; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff"> </div> <div style="FONT-SIZE: 12px; MARGIN: 0px; COLOR: #000; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, Sans-Serif; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff"> </div> <div style="FONT-SIZE: 12px; MARGIN: 0px; COLOR: #000; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, Sans-Serif; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff">I agree that there are many different ways to accomplish a task, whether it is settinga temperament, tying a string or regulating an action. But in order to pass the RPT exam, there is only one way that is correct. And it is that correct, uniform method that needs to be taught to beginning students if the PTG expects them to become RPTs.  Once a technician has learned to do it the "correct" way, then hes/she shoudl be encouraged to learn as many different ways of doing things. </div> <div style="FONT-SIZE: 12px; MARGIN: 0px; COLOR: #000; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, Sans-Serif; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff"> </div> <div style="FONT-SIZE: 12px; MARGIN: 0px; COLOR: #000; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, Sans-Serif; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff"> </div> <div style="FONT-SIZE: 12px; MARGIN: 0px; COLOR: #000; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, Sans-Serif; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff"> </div> <div style="FONT-SIZE: 12px; MARGIN: 0px; COLOR: #000; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, Sans-Serif; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff"><How many times I hear people argue over whether this or that is "best" or "correct" or whatever - when essentially they are both right (depending on the specifics of a given situation. I have seen students bat their heads against a wall trying to do things "the way they have been taught" - unsuccessfully, and then being introduced to another method - and picking it up in a flash. Not that the second method is "better" than the first - they are both used successfully by many people. Just that for some reason the student can relate better to method B than to method A. Trying to force a unitary way down students' throats is a sure way to retard learning for many people. ></div> <div style="FONT-SIZE: 12px; MARGIN: 0px; COLOR: #000; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, Sans-Serif; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff"> </div> <div style="FONT-SIZE: 12px; MARGIN: 0px; COLOR: #000; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, Sans-Serif; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff"> </div> <div style="FONT-SIZE: 12px; MARGIN: 0px; COLOR: #000; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, Sans-Serif; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff">And perhaps that is one of the reasons we have so few people taking the RPT exams. Maybe because the exams have become so annally uniform, without a slight bit of lee way, (other than the tollerences), Assocaites are just giving up trying to become an RPT. </div> <div style="FONT-SIZE: 12px; MARGIN: 0px; COLOR: #000; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, Sans-Serif; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff"> </div> <div style="FONT-SIZE: 12px; MARGIN: 0px; COLOR: #000; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, Sans-Serif; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff"> </div> <div style="FONT-SIZE: 12px; MARGIN: 0px; COLOR: #000; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, Sans-Serif; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff"> </div> <div style="FONT-SIZE: 12px; MARGIN: 0px; COLOR: #000; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, Sans-Serif; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff"><There are many more issues that I will not vex you with at this point. A printed curriculum can go a long way in at least offering the possibility of correcting such problems as the above. The rest is up to the individual - and there is no way to make sure that any given individual will make good use of whatever tools are made available. ></div> <div style="FONT-SIZE: 12px; MARGIN: 0px; COLOR: #000; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, Sans-Serif; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff"> </div> <div style="FONT-SIZE: 12px; MARGIN: 0px; COLOR: #000; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, Sans-Serif; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff"> </div> <div style="FONT-SIZE: 12px; MARGIN: 0px; COLOR: #000; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, Sans-Serif; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff">Like a leading a horse to water. etc.  But isn't a curriculum basically making sure instruction is "uniform", from one instructor to another?  </div> <div style="FONT-SIZE: 12px; MARGIN: 0px; COLOR: #000; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, Sans-Serif; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff"> </div> <div style="FONT-SIZE: 12px; MARGIN: 0px; COLOR: #000; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, Sans-Serif; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff"> </div> <div style="FONT-SIZE: 12px; MARGIN: 0px; COLOR: #000; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, Sans-Serif; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff"> </div> <div style="FONT-SIZE: 12px; MARGIN: 0px; COLOR: #000; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, Sans-Serif; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff"><just a few things to think about in the context of the current discussion...> <br>  <br> Israel Stein <br>  <br>  <br>  </div> <div style="FONT-SIZE: 12px; MARGIN: 0px; COLOR: #000; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, Sans-Serif; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff">Wim<br> </div> <div class="AOLPromoFooter"> <hr style="margin-top:10px;" /> Email and AIM finally together. 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