<html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:st1="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> <meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 11 (filtered medium)">  <title>Re: [CAUT] CAUT Endorsement</title> <o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="PostalCode"/> <o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="State"/> <o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="City"/> <o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="place"/> <o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="PersonName"/>  <style>  </style> </head> <body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space;-webkit-line-break: after-white-space'> <div class=Section1> Ok,<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> Where does PTG cover CAUT issues?<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> JB<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <div> <div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'> <hr size=2 width="100%" align=center tabindex=-1> </div> From: caut-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of David Ilvedson Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 8:19 PM To: caut@ptg.org Subject: Re: [CAUT] CAUT Endorsement<o:p></o:p> </div> <o:p> </o:p> I'm a David, hope I can jump in.   How about starting with PTG and enhancing it.  Why all this re-inventing the wheel?  Don't you guys have other things to do? David Ilvedson, RPT <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Pacifica</st1:City>, <st1:State w:st="on">CA</st1:State> <st1:PostalCode w:st="on">94044</st1:PostalCode></st1:place><o:p></o:p> <div style='border:none;border-left:solid black 2.25pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'> <div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'> <hr size=2 width="100%" align=center> </div> Original message From: "Jim Busby" <jim_busby@byu.edu>  </jim_busby@byu.edu>To: "<st1:PersonName w:st="on">College and University Technicians</st1:PersonName>" <caut@ptg.org>  </caut@ptg.org>Received: 10/23/2007 7:04:27 PM Subject: Re: [CAUT] CAUT Endorsement<o:p></o:p> David, Richard, (others?)<o:p></o:p>  <o:p></o:p> Would either of you venture to say what the curriculum might include? Specifically? That’s precisely what Alan and I are trying to come up with, and we only have a few weeks. Email me privately if you wish. Not only am I open to suggestions, I’m practically begging for them!<o:p></o:p>  <o:p></o:p> Thanks,<o:p></o:p> Jim Busby BYU<o:p></o:p>  <o:p></o:p> <div> <div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'> <hr size=2 width="100%" align=center tabindex=-1> </div> From: caut-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of <st1:PersonName w:st="on">rwest1@unl.edu</st1:PersonName> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 6:53 PM To: <st1:PersonName w:st="on">dporritt@smu.edu</st1:PersonName>; <st1:PersonName w:st="on">College and University Technicians</st1:PersonName> Subject: Re: [CAUT] CAUT Endorsement<o:p></o:p> </div>  <o:p></o:p> David:<o:p></o:p> <div>  <o:p></o:p> </div> <div> I'm completely with you on this statement:<o:p></o:p> <div> <div> On Oct 23, 2007, at 4:12 PM, David M. Porritt wrote:<o:p></o:p> </div> <o:p> </o:p> <span style='orphans: 2; widows: 2;-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px;-webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none;-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0;word-spacing:0px'>I can see a curriculum and a certificate on finishing the curriculum but the more I think about it, the less impressed I am of the value of testing. <o:p></o:p> </div>  <o:p></o:p> </div> <div> Richard West<o:p></o:p> </div> </div> </div> </body> </html>