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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Anne-</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>"Compete" was not a good word choice. I just
wondered if the committee had considered your program in their deliberations.
You might have an experienced view of the questions they are
pondering.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ed</FONT></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=agaree@admin.fsu.edu href="mailto:agaree@admin.fsu.edu">Garee, Anne
E.</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=caut@ptg.org
href="mailto:caut@ptg.org">College and University Technicians</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, October 29, 2007 8:36
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CAUT] CAUT credential vs.
academic program?</DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Fred, Ed, and
All,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">The two-year master’s
program at <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName
w:st="on">Florida</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType
w:st="on">State</st1:PlaceType> <st1:PlaceType
w:st="on">University</st1:PlaceType></st1:place> is an unusually accelerated
and intensive opportunity. It is one option in a field of rare
opportunity for such training. Graduates leave with tools I wish I’d had
when I started out thirty years ago. Not only are they equipped to fill
university posts but can virtually go anywhere in the business and plug in
successfully. I designed the program with as much openness and free
exchange of ideas as possible as evidenced by our ever growing list of guest
lecturers. I also hoped that other institutions and entities would be
stimulated by our program to look into developing other opportunities.
Any initiative that helps elevate and strengthen our field is worth
investigating as collaborative, not competitive.
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Anne
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caut-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Fred Sturm<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Saturday, October 27, 2007 4:23
PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> caut<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [CAUT] CAUT credential vs.
academic program?</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><FONT face=Verdana size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">On 10/27/07 12:34 PM, "Ed
Sutton" <ed440@mindspring.com> wrote:</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">FSU is offering a Masters of Music
in Piano Technology. I believe the program is intended to train people
to work in a university, i.e. as "academically credentialed CAUTs".
<BR>How does the proposed CAUT credential compare to that curriculum?
Will PTG be competing with an accredited program?<BR>Ed
S.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><FONT face=Verdana size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><BR>Hi
Ed,<BR> I believe Ann Garee at FSU is set up to train a
maximum of two masters candidates in piano technology per year, or maybe it is
two students enrolled and one degree per year. A drop in the bucket, though a
welcome drop. <BR> At any rate, it is unlikely that she
would consider what we a proposing as “competition.” She was very supportive
of the caut endorsement concept when I spoke to her about it this past summer.
There can be no question that a two year hands-on program with a mentor in a
real life music department is far beyond anything we in PTG can produce in
terms of training opportunities. <BR>Regards,<BR>Fred
Sturm<BR><st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceType
w:st="on">University</st1:PlaceType> of <st1:PlaceName w:st="on">New
Mexico</st1:PlaceName></st1:place>
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