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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hi Ed, Paul, et al,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I recently bought one of the “Professional”
hygrometers from Pianotek because I had heard the same comments from several
other people. Well, for the past two months I’ve been using it side by
side along with a Dampp-chaser hygrometer a/o ones that my clients happen to be
using. I’d like to say that the small difference in RH that it reads
hardly amounts to anything. AND……it takes quite a while (like five
minutes) to settle down and give an accurate reading from what it registered in
my case, in my car, traveling from the last appointment. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>At first I would smugly take a reading off
of it immediately and was surprised at what a different result it gave from
what was in the piano. I congratulated myself on upgrading my tool and being a
true “professional. However, one time I just let it sit there while I
was tuning and noticed how much it changed until it ended up with almost the
same as the one in the piano. I observe this every day now. And I’m
asking myself why I spent all of that extra money. One client proudly showed
me his thermo-hygrometer (with memory) that he bought at Walmart for $6. It
read the same as my fancy-schmancy “professional” one. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Comments? ;>)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>jeannie<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
caut-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Ed Sutton<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, November 15, 2007
3:05 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> College and University
Technicians<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [CAUT] Hygrometers</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>How about the "Professional" meter that Pianotek
sells?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>I like it because it reads quickly and reads lower RH than
the Radio Shack types.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>I haven't compared it to a sling psychrometer. The sling
psychrometers I have found were rather expensive.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Ed Sutton</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:#E4E4E4'><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:john@musselwhite.com" title="john@musselwhite.com">John
Musselwhite</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>To:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:caut@ptg.org" title="caut@ptg.org">College and University
Technicians</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Thursday, November
15, 2007 4:41 PM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Re: [CAUT]
Hygrometers<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>At 12:42 PM 11/15/07, Paul wrote:<br>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'>Hi List,</span></font> <br>
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<font size=2><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>I have a couple of those
cheap max-min thermo-hygro readers from Pianotek. I'm not sure if
they're very accurate. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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12.0pt'><br>
They're more accurate than the Radio Shack ones, but I don't think by much.<br>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'>If you all remember, last fall/winter I sent in some photos of one of
our recital rooms that Richard West took before I got here with the fog and
water dripping all over everything. It hasn't been that bad since I've
been here, but the last couple of times I've gone in there this past week, it
feels really muggy, but the hygrometer only registers 40-45% (which would be
ideal). Any suggestions on who makes a real accurate reader?</span></font>
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12.0pt'><br>
We have the opposite problem here where Rh can be down into the single digits
in mid-winter. None of the "standard" humidity gauges go down that
far. I use a Cooper Digital Psychrometer much like the one down the page at <a
href="http://www.techinstrument.com/acatalog/Hygrometers__RH___humidity_.html"
eudora=autourl>http://www.techinstrument.com/acatalog/Hygrometers__RH___humidity_.html</a>
(SAMJR995). It's a digital version of a "sling psychrometer",
the wet/dry bulb unit we use to make truly accurate RH readings. While it's
supposedly accurate +-5% it still reads down to zero Rh which in worst case
might actually be 5%. I've read as low as 3% in mid-winter here in some
churches. In those pianos with DC's installed, sticking it under the rim for a
minute and pressing the "hold" button shows it's in the 40-43% range
at the soundboard even with extremely low humidities outside the instrument.<br>
<br>
I also have a USB recording hygrometer that will track the RH and temp over a
long period of time. It's at <a
href="http://www.measurementcomputing.com/cbicatalog/USB-502.asp?dept_id=414&pf_id=1759"
eudora=autourl>http://www.measurementcomputing.com/cbicatalog/USB-502.asp?dept_id=414&pf_id=1759</a>
. It reads very much like the "standard" units and differs from the
Psychrometer's readings. I trust the Cooper more for truly accurate readings.<br>
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