<html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <meta http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> <meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 12 (filtered medium)"> <style>  </style>  </head> <body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple> <div class=Section1> <a name="_MailEndCompose">Writing it off your income tax is certainly a good way to do this.  I think if your Department pays for the dues you do not have to claim the amount as income.  It’s like when an institution reimburses for mileage at the IRS rate, the employee does not have to claim the reimbursement as income.  On the other hand, the employee cannot “double dip” by claiming the same reimbursed mileage on his/her income tax, as you well know.  However, the net amount of savings is more by having the institution reimburse the actual money than if you took it off your income tax.  I should think the same thing would apply for dues.  I think it would be worth checking into.  If you have line items in the departmental budget you could check with the Chair about including this reimbursement in one of the line items.  It is definitely an advantage for the department for you to be in PTG…the information gleaned from the magazine; being able to attend the Convention and seminars, etc.<o:p></o:p></a> <o:p> </o:p> Joy!<o:p></o:p> Elwood<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> Rev. Elwood Doss, Jr., M.M.E; RPT<o:p></o:p> Piano Technician/Technical Director<o:p></o:p> Department of Music<o:p></o:p> 145 Fine Arts Building<o:p></o:p> The University of Tennessee at Martin<o:p></o:p> Martin, TN  38238<o:p></o:p> Office:  731/881-1852<o:p></o:p> Fax: 731/881-7415<o:p></o:p> <div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'> From: caut-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of Paul T Williams Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 7:56 AM To: College and University Technicians Subject: Re: [CAUT] PTG Dues<o:p></o:p> </div> <o:p> </o:p> Me thinks I'll just write it off as I do outside tunings occasionally.  It was just a wild thought ;>) Paul <o:p></o:p> <table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellpadding=0 width="100%" style='width:100.0%'> <tr> <td width="40%" valign=top style='width:40.0%;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'> Richard Brekne <ricb@pianostemmer.no> Sent by: caut-bounces@ptg.org <o:p></o:p> 01/04/2008 03:19 AM <o:p></o:p> <table class=MsoNormalTable border=1 cellpadding=0> <tr> <td valign=top style='background:white;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'> Please respond to College and University Technicians <caut@ptg.org><o:p></o:p> </td> </tr> </table> </td> <td width="59%" valign=top style='width:59.0%;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'> <table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellpadding=0 width="100%" style='width:100.0%'> <tr> <td valign=top style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'> To<o:p></o:p> </td> <td valign=top style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'> caut@ptg.org <o:p></o:p> </td> </tr> <tr> <td valign=top style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'> cc<o:p></o:p> </td> <td valign=top style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'></td> </tr> <tr> <td valign=top style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'> Subject<o:p></o:p> </td> <td valign=top style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'> [CAUT]  PTG Dues<o:p></o:p> </td> </tr> </table> <o:p> </o:p> <table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellpadding=0> <tr> <td valign=top style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'></td> <td valign=top style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'></td> </tr> </table> </td> </tr> </table> <tt>That strikes me as kind of like asking an employer to pay your union </tt> <tt>dues :)... not quite the best analogy but not the worst either me </tt> <tt>thinks. As to courses and seminars...  depends on the situation.  If the </tt> <tt>school is has some direct benefit from some particular training I get... </tt> <tt>then I talk to them about it and either they do or dont.  Most of these </tt> <tt>things are tax deductible and if I am not mistaken you cant mix your P's </tt> <tt>and Q' there.  If you get support... you have to declare it as income </tt> <tt>over here and don't get to deduct that amount as an expense.  Sometimes </tt> <tt>its just not worth the bother of all the paperwork to do anything but </tt> <tt>just pay for it yourself.</tt> <tt>Cheers</tt> <tt>RicB</tt> <tt>   List,</tt> <tt>   I have a quick question;  Have any of you asked the schools of music to</tt> <tt>   reimburse part or all of your PTG dues as ongoing education?</tt> <tt>   Thanks for any input...</tt> <tt>   Paul T. Williams RPT</tt> <tt>   UNL</tt> <o:p></o:p> </div> </body> </html>