I've avidly followed this thread. I use Ronsen myself and have been well pleased. I'll certainly try some others.<br>My question is this: you are all talking about a relatively expensive part and highly skilled/priced labor for trial & error experimentation. How do work this out with the customer; what if you or the customer doesn't like them? You now have a used/new set of hammers.<br>
Nancy Salmon RPT<br>Frostburg State University<br>MD<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 9:40 AM, David Love <<a href="mailto:davidlovepianos@comcast.net">davidlovepianos@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">It depends on the piano and what the customer wants. I've changed many sets<br>
of Abel and Renner hammers off older Steinways where no amount of needling<br>
was going to achieve the tone that the customer wanted and put on Bacon Felt<br>
hammers that were darn near perfect after some shaping and polishing. So my<br>
conclusion and experience is considerably different than yours and I<br>
encourage people to sample different types of hammers and see for<br>
themselves. I think they'll find that the one hammer suits all is what's<br>
"overdriven" here.<br>
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David Love<br>
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From: <a href="mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org">caut-bounces@ptg.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org">caut-bounces@ptg.org</a>] On Behalf Of<br>
Richard Brekne<br>
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 12:07 AM<br>
To: <a href="mailto:caut@ptg.org">caut@ptg.org</a><br>
Subject: [CAUT] Abel aelect Vs. Rosner-Wurtzen<br>
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Hi<br>
<br>
I think really that your post goes to show that just about any reasonbly<br>
made hammer can work quite well in just about any piano. I'm coming<br>
more and more to the conclusion that very much of the to do about<br>
differerent hammer types is quite overdriven. To be sure, a hammer can<br>
be made so as to be impossible, or nearly so, to work up any real<br>
elasticity... and you do have the real qualitative difference between<br>
hammers meant to be needled and those meant for addition of lacquer.<br>
But that said if you have a decently made set in front of you, you can<br>
get them to work. Some may require a bit more work then others... some not.<br>
<br>
With regard to hammers meant to be needled.... I'd also like to point<br>
out that it increasingly seems to me that there is no such thing as the<br>
hammer that just sounds good from the get go... and we can leave them as<br>
is. Recent experiences showed me quite clearly that even moderately<br>
soft hammers benefit greatly (with regards to increased elasticity and<br>
dynamic range) if needled to release lower and mid shoulder tensions<br>
even if this requires a good soaking of very thin solids lacquer<br>
afterwards. Indeed, this has become really a third road for me, and a<br>
surprising one at that.<br>
<br>
Cheers<br>
RicB<br>
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<br>
Hi All,<br>
<br>
I was wandering if any of you have tried the Abel "Select" from<br>
Pianotek vs. other hammers. I have put them in a Mason & Hamlin CC, two<br>
9'2" Bechstein ENs, and several Steinways. I have found them to give a<br>
great sound with little voicing. I have been told that from one of the<br>
professors that played a new Steinway B at another university that<br>
while the new B had a great sound, it could not match the sound of the<br>
Steinway B that I put the Abel "Select" hammers on. I was also told by<br>
all of the staff that neither of the Bechsteins sounded nearly as good<br>
as they do now. I was just told by a guest artist that she loved the<br>
Mason & Hamlin because of the beautiful coloring of the tone of the<br>
piano. Just curious to see if anyone else out there has tried these<br>
hammers and how they liked them.<br>
<br>
Bill Balmer, RPT<br>
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