<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.6000.16674" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#d8d0c8> <DIV><FONT size=2>I know many movers routinely tilt on the lyre; I watched it done on an Art Case "D" at an S&S dealer.  But... just because there's no immediate visible damage, isn't it probable that it's overstressing glue joints that aren't designed for side stress?  Look at the fore-and-aft braces to resist a player's foot -- a lot less stress!  Most lyres I see have play in them somewhere, even after snugging up the bolts.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>--Cy--</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>ABQ, NM</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV></BODY></HTML>