<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40" xmlns:v = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:st1 = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" xmlns:ns1 = "http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml"><HEAD><TITLE>Message</TITLE> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.6000.16674" name=GENERATOR><o:SmartTagType name="PersonName" namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></o:SmartTagType> <STYLE>  </STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY lang=EN-US vLink=purple link=blue> <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=806360215-01072008><FONT color=#000080>Jim,</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=806360215-01072008><FONT color=#000080></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=806360215-01072008><FONT color=#000080>Good idea about the touch weight - but . . . </FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=806360215-01072008><FONT color=#000080></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=806360215-01072008><FONT color=#000080>The sensors required to accurately measure touch weight resistance are very expensive.  You and I can change weights and watch to see which one moves the keys, but the machines have to have super precise sensors on the tip to measure the resistance.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=806360215-01072008><FONT color=#000080></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=806360215-01072008><FONT color=#000080>It can be done reasonably well in a factory situation where the volume justifies the costs, but it's my guess that it would quadruple the price of this rig to add a touch weight sensor!</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=806360215-01072008><FONT color=#000080></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=806360215-01072008><FONT color=#000080>I agree with others - this is a nifty setup, but kind of overkill.  Kawai uses a laser sensor to do a similar thing in the factory, and it prints out a paper tape showing which punchings to put under each key.  Then the action is pounded by machine for a while, and guess what?  </FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=806360215-01072008><FONT color=#000080></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=806360215-01072008><FONT color=#000080>-</FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=806360215-01072008><FONT color=#000080> Technicians redo the leveling the old fashioned way.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=806360215-01072008><FONT color=#000080></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=806360215-01072008><FONT color=#000080>:-)</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=806360215-01072008><FONT color=#000080></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=806360215-01072008><FONT color=#000080>Don</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=806360215-01072008><FONT color=#000080></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left> <HR tabIndex=-1> <FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> caut-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Jim Busby<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, June 30, 2008 4:25 PM<BR><B>To:</B> College and University Technicians<BR><B>Subject:</B> [CAUT] Key leveling<BR></FONT><BR></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV class=Section1> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> Jim Busby <BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Monday, June 30, 2008 3:25 PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> '<st1:PersonName w:st="on">College and University Technicians</st1:PersonName>'<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> FW: QuicKey Leveler</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">List,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Those of you at the convention saw this new tool. I told the fellow that after leveling with this device if you could add a weight and accurately measure dip that this would be, IMO, even more valuable than the key leveling aspect. What do you think? I like to see new/different ideas.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Simply put for those who weren’t there, this device sets up and measures key height by contacting each key and then a computer tells you to put in whatever punching is needed for a “one pass” key leveling job. That’s how I understood it anyway. It seems like a consistent weight carrying the probe to the bottom of the key dip is the next logical step. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">IMO this tool is pricy for just leveling. Add dip, maybe I’d consider it. Figure out how to lay perfect dip and aftertouch… well, I’m even more interested! Until then I’ll do it the old fashioned way.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Jim Busby BYU<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Calibri size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV></BODY></HTML>