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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Next time I tip a piano...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ed</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=jim_busby@byu.edu href="mailto:jim_busby@byu.edu">Jim Busby</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=caut@ptg.org
href="mailto:caut@ptg.org">College and University Technicians</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, June 30, 2008 4:37 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CAUT] piano moving
stuff</DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Yes. Photos! (Please?
: ->)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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href="mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org">caut-bounces@ptg.org</A>
[mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org] <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of
</SPAN></B>Fred Sturm<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B>
Thursday, June 26, 2008 12:41 PM<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Ed
Sutton</st1:PersonName>; <st1:PersonName w:st="on">College and University
Technicians</st1:PersonName><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [CAUT] piano moving
stuff</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Hi Ed,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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</SPAN></FONT></SPAN>Sounds like a great idea. Photos?<o:p></o:p></P><SPAN
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">On Jun 26, 2008, at 11:31 AM, <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">Ed Sutton</st1:PersonName> wrote:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">For turning small
pianos in tight spaces, make a "T" of 2 x 4's, reinforced with plywood plates.
The leg should be about the length of the lyre.</SPAN></FONT><FONT
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Remove the lyre and
screw the T to the keybed, or also remove the action and clamp the T along the
front of the keybed. Unlike the horse, it will turn the piano "in place." If
you're tipping onto blocks or a raised skid board, attach the T a little bit
off center to the bass side and the piano will land comfortably balanced for
the "up lift."</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Helvetica color=black size=1><SPAN
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> </SPAN></FONT></SPAN><FONT
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><A
title=jim_busby@byu.edu href="mailto:jim_busby@byu.edu">Jim
Busby</A><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> </SPAN></FONT></SPAN><FONT
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><A
title=caut@ptg.org href="mailto:caut@ptg.org">College and University
Technicians</A><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Thursday, June 26,
2008 1:18 PM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> </SPAN></FONT></SPAN><FONT
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Re: [CAUT] piano
moving stuff<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">In very small
practice rooms sometimes moving on the lyre is the only way. The main
problem with this practice is the loosening of lyre wedges, etc. and so you
must always check the integrity of the lyre. One of the best movers in<SPAN
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w:st="on">Utah</st1:place></st1:State></st1:place></st1:state><SPAN
class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN>always uses the lyre and claims 40
years of “no problems”. I have a horse. Love it,
sometimes…<U1:P></U1:P></SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><A
href="mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org">caut-bounces@ptg.org</A> [<A
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Inc<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B><SPAN
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PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B><SPAN
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u2:st="on"><st1:PersonName w:st="on">College and University
Technicians</st1:PersonName></st1:personname>'<BR><B><SPAN
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stuff</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Many movers
regularly turn grands on the lyre without problems. I don't because we have
the Horse and it seems safer to me. Gordon Crail, who invented the
Horse, is a friend and we have a prototype that has been used for years in
the shop and on the road. He suggests, blocking the tail end of the
dolly up, using a person to counter balance the key end, and using a
lift strap. Doing this saves a lot of strain, as about half of the
lift is done. I don't have pics of the skids but the GC is sort of
like what we have. We have fixed wheels in the center and swivel
wheels at each end. </SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I enjoyed the
Annual and it seemed to me that most everyone else did. The
facility was good and the Institute and Home Office staff had every
thing running smoothly. Next year it will be in<SPAN
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Rapids</st1:City></st1:city>,<SPAN
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w:st="on">MI</st1:State></st1:place></st1:state></st1:place><SPAN
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looks like one of the best venues yet.</SPAN></FONT><FONT
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<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=black size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black">July 15, 2009--July 19,
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=black size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black">52ND ANNUAL CONVENTION<BR>Amway
Grand Hotel<BR><st1:place u2:st="on"><st1:city u2:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Grand Rapids</st1:City></st1:city>,<SPAN
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w:st="on">MI</st1:State></st1:place></st1:state></st1:place><BR>Contact:
Sandy Roady<BR><st1:address u2:st="on"><st1:street u2:st="on"><st1:address
w:st="on"><st1:Street w:st="on">4444 Forest
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Tahoma color=black size=2><SPAN
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Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN><A
href="mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org">caut-bounces@ptg.org</A> [<A
href="mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org">mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org</A>]<SPAN
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Williams<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B><SPAN
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PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B><SPAN
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u2:st="on"></SPAN><st1:PersonName w:st="on">College and University
Technicians</st1:PersonName></st1:personname><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B><SPAN
class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN>Re: [CAUT] piano moving
stuff<U1:P></U1:P></SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=black size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black"><BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I NEVER use the
lyre for tilting. Who does such a horrible thing? How would
one combine the two? I'm trying to visualize getting the
lifting of the back end of the grand away for getting a dolly under....
Sure would save some backs!!!</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><BR><BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=black
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">pw</SPAN></FONT><SPAN
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size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">ps
Thanks. I think I may get a Horse for myself here in the shop..
It looks real good. any pics of your shop built
thing?</SPAN></FONT><SPAN class=apple-converted-space><FONT
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natonal?</SPAN></FONT><SPAN class=apple-converted-space><FONT
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w:st="on">College and University
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face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Hi
Paul,</SPAN></FONT><SPAN class=apple-converted-space><FONT
color=black><SPAN style="COLOR: black"> </SPAN></FONT></SPAN><FONT
color=black><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><BR> <SPAN
class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN><BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT
face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Use the Horse all
the time and love it. The only problem may be combining the two. It looks
like the Grand Chariot</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><A
href="http://www.premiermovingequipment.com/"><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">http://www.premiermovingequipment.com/</SPAN></FONT></A></SPAN></FONT><SPAN
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> </SPAN></FONT></SPAN><FONT
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">may be raised off
the ground a bit and the Horse is designed to take the piano to the
ground. I use something similar to the GC that is shop built and it
requires more care to use it in combination with the Horse. Looks like the
GC is designed for those who use the lyre for turning.</SPAN></FONT><SPAN
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Probst,<SPAN class=apple-converted-space> <st1:place
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original
Message-----<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"><BR>From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN><A
href="mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org">caut-bounces@ptg.org</A> [<A
href="mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org">mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org</A>]<SPAN
class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of<SPAN
class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN></SPAN></B>Paul T
Williams<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"><BR>Sent:</SPAN></B><SPAN
class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN>Wednesday, June 25, 2008 12:28
PM<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"><BR>To:</SPAN></B><SPAN
class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN><A
href="mailto:caut@ptg.org">caut@ptg.org</A><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"><BR>Subject:</SPAN></B><SPAN
class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN>[CAUT] piano moving
stuff<BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=black
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><BR>Hi
all</SPAN></FONT><SPAN class=apple-converted-space><FONT color=black><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"> </SPAN></FONT></SPAN><FONT color=black><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=black
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><BR>I hope your
time in<SPAN class=apple-converted-space> <st1:city
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w:st="on">Anaheim</st1:place></st1:City></st1:place></st1:city><SPAN
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all!</SPAN></FONT><SPAN class=apple-converted-space><FONT
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><BR>We have a
professor here who is going to be "on the road" with her Yamaha C-7 this
fall. she asked me about piano moving stuff and mentioned the piano
horse (janssen) and something called a "grand chariot" which looks
more like a skidboard with wheels.</SPAN></FONT><SPAN
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style="COLOR: black"> </SPAN></FONT></SPAN><FONT color=black><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=black
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><BR>Have any of
you used these things? Are they worth the money? (she has a grant to
buy said items) Anything better out there?</SPAN></FONT><SPAN
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style="COLOR: black"> </SPAN></FONT></SPAN><FONT color=black><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=black
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><BR>Thanks in
advance</SPAN></FONT><SPAN class=apple-converted-space><FONT
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color=black><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial
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