<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML xmlns:o = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:st1 = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1555" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Both sharps and flats!</FONT></DIV> <DIV>Joe Goss RPT<BR>Mother Goose Tools<BR><A href="mailto:imatunr@srvinet.com">imatunr@srvinet.com</A><BR><A href="http://www.mothergoosetools.com">www.mothergoosetools.com</A></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=piano57@comcast.net href="mailto:piano57@comcast.net">piano57@comcast.net</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=caut@ptg.org href="mailto:caut@ptg.org">College and University Technicians</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, July 01, 2008 8:33 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CAUT] Key leveling</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>Hey Jim,</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Oops, I deleted your post about leveling in 20 minutes.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>If you can level a keyboard in 20 minutes, why are you interested that tool?  It said the job would take 3 1/2 hours with this tool (if I remember correctly).  Is that 20 minutes for a touch-up or a real,  these keys are all over the place job?  ;-)  I'd be interested in hearing about your method.  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Generally I start off with two tightly mated punchings of the same size and see if they fit under the leveling stick wherever I think they would fit.  If it's off my some amount I estimate (guess?) to find out what the "ratio" (for lack of a better word) is so I can pair up the punchings to fit.  I have a handy self closing tweezers (which will appear soon in TT & T) that hold the punchings well. I can tell how they feel when they slip under the leveling stick if it's a go or not.  After that, I usually get real close with one pass and then touch-up by feeling the keys.  This is nothing new, John Minor showed this method to me years ago--I've just gotten better at it with time.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>How many times have I followed someone's work where it's obvious that the sharps haven't gotten any attention. I guess I shouldn't be surprised anymore.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Barbara Richmond, RPT</DIV> <DIV>near Peoria, Illinois</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>-------------- Original message -------------- <BR>From: Jim Busby <jim_busby@byu.edu> <BR></DIV> <META content="Microsoft Word 11 (filtered medium)" name=Generator><o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="PersonName"></o:SmartTagType> <STYLE>st1\:* { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#ieooui) } </STYLE> <STYLE>  </STYLE> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"> <DIV class=Section1> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> Jim Busby <BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Monday, June 30, 2008 3:25 PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> '<st1:PersonName w:st="on">College and University Technicians</st1:PersonName>'<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> FW: QuicKey Leveler</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">List,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Those of you at the convention saw this new tool. I told the fellow that after leveling with this device if you could add a weight and accurately measure dip that this would be, IMO, even more valuable than the key leveling aspect. What do you think? I like to see new/different ideas.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Simply put for those who weren’t there, this device sets up and measures key height by contacting each key and then a computer tells you to put in whatever punching is needed for a “one pass” key leveling job. That’s how I understood it anyway. It seems like a consistent weight carrying the probe to the bottom of the key dip is the next logical step. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">IMO this tool is pricy for just leveling. Add dip, maybe I’d consider it. Figure out how to lay perfect dip and aftertouch… well, I’m even more interested! Until then I’ll do it the old fashioned way.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Jim Busby BYU<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Calibri size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>