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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>We had software similar to what Andy describes at
USC. Many of the CAUT posts would come into my inbox with SPAM followed by
a number of asterisks (which gave "spam rating") in the subject line. We
just bought a new HP for the store with Vista Home Premium, and the email
program that came with it has been putting a number of the CAUT posts directly
into the "Junk Email" folder. It's also more difficult to reply to
messages. Each different message I try to reply to has different "rules"
apparently. Cutting and pasting work differently from email to email,
apparently depending on the email program sent from each sender. The
recent emails from Tony are particulary difficult to reply to. Some even
have completely different toolbars. With some emails I can access the
"fonts" function and others won't let me. Some replies, like below, make
it easy to see what you're replying to, and others don't show a
difference.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Jeff</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=fssturm@unm.edu href="mailto:fssturm@unm.edu">Fred Sturm</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=caut@ptg.org
href="mailto:caut@ptg.org">College and University Technicians</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, July 02, 2008 1:32
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CAUT] caut spam filter (was
Re: [SPAM?? 59%] Re: WNG/CF parts)</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>I have seen it sometimes in responses, but this has happened to
at least one that I sent that wasn't a response but just a straight post:
<SPAN class=Apple-style-span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"></SPAN>
<DIV><SPAN class=Apple-style-span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">[CAUT] [SPAM??
59%] NYC piano manufacturers, ca 1860s</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV>And the one in the subject line of this post, (WNG/CF parts) I responded
to directly. It (the message I was responding to) shows in my mailbox without
the SPAM tag, and in my sent box it has <SPAN class=Apple-style-span
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Re: [CAUT] WNG/CF parts <SPAN class=Apple-style-span
style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal"> as its subject line</SPAN><SPAN
class=Apple-style-span style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal">. It is an isolated thing,
but happened twice in a couple weeks, so I am wondering what's going
on.</SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><B><SPAN class=Apple-tab-span style="WHITE-SPACE: pre"></SPAN><SPAN
class=Apple-style-span style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal">It took quite a while for
both to appear on the list. </SPAN><SPAN class=Apple-style-span
style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal">Maybe it is being caught by my university's
outgoing filter somehow? That doesn't seem to make any sense. But maybe I
should ask IT at UNM. The 59% part seems only to have happened to a couple of
my posts.</SPAN><BR></B>
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<DIV>Regards,</DIV>
<DIV>Fred Sturm</DIV>
<DIV>University of New Mexico</DIV>
<DIV><A href="mailto:fssturm@unm.edu">fssturm@unm.edu</A></DIV>
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<DIV>On Jul 2, 2008, at 10:08 AM, Andy Rudoff wrote:</DIV><BR
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<DIV>The list software on the PTG server does occasionally hold posts if it
finds<BR>something questionable about them. The most common reasons
for this are large<BR>attachments, messages with a large number of
recipients, etc. When this happens,<BR>a member of the ECC does indeed
take a look at the held post and either approve<BR>it or reject
it.<BR><BR>But we don't add anything to the subject line.<BR><BR>So what I
think happened here is that a CAUT subscriber has software that<BR>adds
"[SPAM?? ...]" to the subject line of incoming messages, and
that<BR>subscriber then replied to the message, posting the modified subject
line<BR>back to everyone else. All I can say about software like that
is: yuck.<BR>But anyway, that's most likely how the word SPAM got added to
the thread.<BR><BR>-andy<BR><BR>Fred Sturm wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Hi all,<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"> I have noticed recently that a
couple of my posts seem to have been<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">caught in a spam filter, then presumably checked
by the electronic<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">communications committee and posted with
[CAUT] [SPAM??] added to the<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">subject heading. Can anyone enlighten me about
this? Are there things to<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">avoid that would keep this from
happening?<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Regards,<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Fred Sturm<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">University of New Mexico<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><A
href="mailto:fssturm@unm.edu">fssturm@unm.edu</A><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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